914 Rear Fog Lamp Installation with details & Photo's, Only winning cars have them, BLing, Bling. |
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914 Rear Fog Lamp Installation with details & Photo's, Only winning cars have them, BLing, Bling. |
TJB/914 |
Jun 30 2007, 03:50 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Hi Guys,
I just finished drilling (2) 6mm holes & (1) 3mm hole in by trunk to mount my "Rear Fog Light" factory accessory. I like it, makes my car different from all the others. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Here's a few pictures to show details of the U.S.A. issue rear fog lamp I installed. I got a Euro fog lamp assembly from Gustl (thanks Gustl-aka-Wolfgang) & put everything together using the satin black U.S. housing with the Euro lens because I thought it looked better. One of the brackets to mount is still available from Porsche, but the exterior bracket is NLA. The exterior bracket I got from Gustl was a surprise, it's made of stainless steel. I'll post a number of photo's in a few days showing lots of details & differences. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Hope you guys enjoy. Tom BTW Pat: I measured a lot before drilling the holes. Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
TJB/914 |
Jun 30 2007, 04:00 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Here's a few more photo's of the brackets. The one that goes in the trunk is still available from Porsche & it's a no brainer locating the holes.
Note, the U.S. spec housing is satin black & the Euro housing I got from Gusts was chromed. I wonder why?? Tom Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
TJB/914 |
Jun 30 2007, 04:09 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Differences inside the U.S. & Euro housings
Tom Attached thumbnail(s) |
TJB/914 |
Jun 30 2007, 04:12 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Lens are different. I like the Euro lens & that's what I used.
Tom Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
Johny Blackstain |
Jun 30 2007, 05:06 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So update your damned avatar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ! Looks nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) , something to think about for the six.
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Jun 30 2007, 05:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Tom,
Nice tidy installation. I presume that there is a factory spec switch, similar to the front fog light switch that activates it, or is it wired so the rear light is illuminated when the front fogs are turned on? Unique, distinctive and factory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Paul |
TJB/914 |
Jun 30 2007, 05:10 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Tom, Nice tidy installation. I presume that there is a factory spec switch, similar to the front fog light switch that activates it, or is it wired so the rear light is illuminated when the front fogs are turned on? Unique, distinctive and factory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Paul Hi Paul, I haven't got to that yet & need to know how to wire up the switch. For now the wire is curled up in the trunk waiting for the above info. Anybody know the answer?? Tom |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Jun 30 2007, 05:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Tom,
I'd guess that a European wiring diagram might show how the rear fog is wired. I would also presume that the bulb used in that application would be of higher wattage than the t/l bulbs, yes? Paul |
Gustl |
Jun 30 2007, 05:19 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,682 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
Note, the U.S. spec housing is satin black & the Euro housing I got from Gustls was chromed. I wonder why?? maybe it has to do something with the model year? or they used the different versions for cars with black bumpers vs. cars with chrome bumpers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) anyhow - nice work, Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) I'm happy it worked out well for you your car is a much better place than my cellar, for this rear fog light (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
Johny Blackstain |
Jun 30 2007, 05:22 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I would also presume that the bulb used in that application would be of higher wattage than the t/l bulbs, yes? Paul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) & would use a US bulb if possible to keep any heat from the electrical current down, just to be safe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 30 2007, 08:33 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Allright! You had to know this was coming Tom.
You have this nice, tidy installation of a rear fog - with the wiring laying in the trunk? YOU DRILLED HOLES in your 914 for something that may, or may not work? Holes that will have to be leaded in if this scheme doesn't work - and repainted. For a rear fog light? Well then, I'll have to say that it's pretty cool (assuming you can wire it in "per fatory"). If not, your 914 is ruined, though I'd "help" you find a buyer who wants extraneous holes in a 914 - think I know one close by, though the yellow color could be a problem. Pat ps - nice job - neat thing. And, you know I'm only kidding, except for the yellow color! |
Jasfsmith |
Jun 30 2007, 09:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
Tom:
You missed the rubber gromet that the lead to the light goes thru. Also my bracket was not stainless, nor the hex bolts that go through the rear panel. I've been trying to trace the circuit to the front (it has a separate switch) without any sucess. I have the German factory manuals and it has little to offer. I'm being to think it was a dealer installed option. BTW, my 914-6 is an Euro version. Chrome housing, rounded edge (though with a couple of chips) rather than the current version available that overlaps the housing. Headlights have to be on (low beam) for the switch to be active. It is not tied to the driving light switch (no fogs on the Euro model). |
Eric_Shea |
Jun 30 2007, 10:29 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Excellent Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Jasfsmith |
Jul 1 2007, 09:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
To bad Pat doesn't have a rear fog light. Would have been one more thing for him to clean. <grin> |
914Mike |
Jul 2 2007, 07:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 330 Joined: 27-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 198 |
The Famous "Lost Warehouse" sale a few years back included the factory rear fog wiring harness. I bought one from George at that time, so I can describe it for you. It consists of two wires in a sleeve at the light, the brown wire has a ring about halfway along the length, it connected to the ground post under the relay board. From the light it joins the rear harness in the metal tabs, up and over the wheel arch, through the slot at the front of the trunk. The other wire, (sorry, I'll have to edit in the color, as it's on my other car) goes into the tunnel via the rubber boot from the engine shelf to the lower firewall. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) After that it will go to the foglight relay, I guess, not sure how it would go to be "Per Fatory". (I used it for a trunk solenoid, so ended it at my custom console.) Pretty sure it has sleeving all the way, but can't remember offhand.
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Eric_Shea |
Jul 2 2007, 07:16 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE To bad Pat doesn't have a rear fog light. Would have been one more thing for him to clean. Pat can't "handle" a rear fog light. Son, we live in a world that has rear fog lights. And those fog lights have to be guarded by men with award winning cars. Who's gonna do it? Pat? Pat Garvey? Tom has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tom and you curse the rear fog light. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Tom's newfound rust holes, while tragic, probably helped others win awards. And the rear fog lights existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins trophy's...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want a rear fog light. You need a rear fog light. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Attached image(s) |
TJB/914 |
Jul 2 2007, 08:07 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE To bad Pat doesn't have a rear fog light. Would have been one more thing for him to clean. Pat can't "handle" a rear fog light. Son, we live in a world that has rear fog lights. And those fog lights have to be guarded by men with award winning cars. Who's gonna do it? Pat? Pat Garvey? Tom has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tom and you curse the rear fog light. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Tom's newfound rust holes, while tragic, probably helped others win awards. And the rear fog lights existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins trophy's...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want a rear fog light. You need a rear fog light. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Eric, you guys crack me up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) I have created another unattainable accessory bling, bling, for must have CW's at any price by us sicko's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) First is was the $50.00 Saratoga roof now @ $1,000.00 bucks & now the priceless "rear fog lamp" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Let me see, I've got a trunk rack, Saratoga roof, Rear fog lamp, now all I need is a 3.6 6er motor. When will the madness end??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) Tom BTW: I'll be a hit on Woodward Ave during the Woodward cruise this August. I will stay out of Detroit trucking this kind of bling, bling. |
Eric_Shea |
Jul 2 2007, 08:45 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Keep the trunk rack Gomer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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Pat Garvey |
Jul 2 2007, 08:52 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE To bad Pat doesn't have a rear fog light. Would have been one more thing for him to clean. Pat can't "handle" a rear fog light. Son, we live in a world that has rear fog lights. And those fog lights have to be guarded by men with award winning cars. Who's gonna do it? Pat? Pat Garvey? Tom has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tom and you curse the rear fog light. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Tom's newfound rust holes, while tragic, probably helped others win awards. And the rear fog lights existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins trophy's...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want a rear fog light. You need a rear fog light. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Eric, you guys crack me up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) I have created another unattainable accessory bling, bling, for must have CW's at any price by us sicko's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) First is was the $50.00 Saratoga roof now @ $1,000.00 bucks & now the priceless "rear fog lamp" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Let me see, I've got a trunk rack, Saratoga roof, Rear fog lamp, now all I need is a 3.6 6er motor. When will the madness end??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) Tom BTW: I'll be a hit on Woodward Ave during the Woodward cruise this August. I will stay out of Detroit trucking this kind of bling, bling. Not unless you put some decent 20's on that bad boy! And, convert that uselss rear trunk to e good quality boom hole. Pat |
TJB/914 |
Jul 2 2007, 08:54 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,383 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am not done with that trunk rack. I asked the wife to make me a dried cane weaved picnic basket to fit the trunk rack so I can carry (4) bottles of "Two Buck Charlie Wine" when I visit Gary's house to look at his 914-6 tool kit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) T |
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