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> Do I get the Sloth award?, 1.9TD Conversion
Bill D
post May 17 2008, 08:30 AM
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I found a 73 914 in good condition in July 2006. The intention from day one was to convert this car to electric or diesel.

The car had been stored for 19 years. I had to do the typical flush the gas tank rebuild the calipers etc. I put a hundred miles or so on the motor that was in the car and then it sat for a few months while I started gathering up information to do an EV
conversion. The numbers for weight and range just didn't add up for my requirements so a diesel conversion was decided on. Now I just hope to get it running before we run out of oil.

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post May 17 2008, 09:24 AM
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I have been wondering when this would be done. A TDI beats a hybrid IMO. Lots of luck on your project.

Sloth? I seriously doubt it!
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post May 17 2008, 09:47 AM
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Now I just hope to get it running before we run out of oil.


Aaaah, but we don't have to worry about it. I have been looking into bio-diesel.

It is a possibility, there making it from all sorts of things. Good Luck with this,

when I heard about the subaru flat diesel, I thought this would be a fun project.

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post May 17 2008, 10:24 AM
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With some fairly minor mods, those TDIs can crank out SERIOUS torque... be careful with that 901!
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post May 17 2008, 11:06 AM
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With some fairly minor mods, those TDIs can crank out SERIOUS torque... be careful with that 901!


Really, I did not consider the torque, might need another box.
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post May 17 2008, 11:48 AM
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the 1.9 wont out perform the 914 transmission.
I think the 2.4 turbo is the beast to hunt down...its got loads of support in the UK from the Eurovan crowd...I loved that motor..it can be made to really perform..

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post May 17 2008, 12:42 PM
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the 1.9 wont out perform the 914 transmission.

Not stock, it won't. 150-180 ft/lbs depending on specifics. But, if you are inclined to modify it for performance, a chip, injectors and boost can more than double that.
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post May 17 2008, 04:54 PM
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Very cool Bill. Looking forward to watching your progress.
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post May 17 2008, 05:04 PM
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I've been on this project for 2 years which is the personal part of my sloth persona. I've been looking at some of the work you guys have been able to do on your projects and have been amazed at the great work you all have been able to do in a short amount of time. I wouldn't be as far along as I am now if I hadn't found another 914 friend close by that we could exchange help and ideas with.


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post May 17 2008, 05:09 PM
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kind of a related question.
In reality, how much air would be needed in the engine bay?

Supposing you have a radiator, could you route the air intake to a specific vent, or duct and then close off the engine bay (eliminate the grills)???

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post May 17 2008, 05:14 PM
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2 years and you already have the engine in? Pishtosh - you're the hare not a sloth!!
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post May 17 2008, 05:21 PM
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Now I just hope to get it running before we run out of oil.


Aaaah, but we don't have to worry about it. I have been looking into bio-diesel.

It is a possibility, there making it from all sorts of things. Good Luck with this,

when I heard about the subaru flat diesel, I thought this would be a fun project.

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I had the same car in the same color years ago. An 83 300CDT. You can go 50mph on dirt roads with chuck holes and not feel a thing or hear a rattle. It had 275K miles on the original water pump when somebody crashed into ours. Amazing car.

I'm hoping bio diesel production will pick up (we have a coop on the other side of town and maybe one will open up closer). I don't want to build a bio plant in the garage for personal consumption.
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post May 18 2008, 08:20 AM
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Rich,

You probably need some air flow in the engine compartment. Maybe what passes under the car would be enough. I'm going to put a radiator on the left side of the engine compartment and if that isn't good enough add one where the muffler used to go. I would like to keep the front trunk intact.

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kind of a related question.
In reality, how much air would be needed in the engine bay?

Supposing you have a radiator, could you route the air intake to a specific vent, or duct and then close off the engine bay (eliminate the grills)???

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post May 18 2008, 08:28 AM
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It's kind of in. The motor is laying on the old engine bracket. Still need to fabricate some kind of mounts and crossbar.

Thank you to whoever posted the picture of using 911 engine mounts, good idea. I've already put those in.


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2 years and you already have the engine in? Pishtosh - you're the hare not a sloth!!
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post Aug 12 2008, 02:18 PM
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Tell me a few things please.
How are you bolting in the tranny to motor???
Is there an adapter needed?

Also starter location etc???

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post Aug 12 2008, 02:34 PM
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I would love to do a suby diesel conversion someday. Good luck! I will watch this thread for updates.
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post Aug 12 2008, 04:29 PM
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Bill,

If that's a post '97 motor, then AFAIK any Audi/VW Passat transaxle (model 012 [nee Boxster])will bolt up to it. This would give you a modern 5 speed and only require a cable shifter (and no trans adapter plate). I think the stock CV's will bolt to the flanges; someone here has swapped an Audi/Boxster trans who may be better able to answer that question.

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Given the torque that the diesel is putting out, I'd highly recomend using the 012 trans from the Passat. The best, would be one that was behind the same motor as the gearing will be MUCH improved. It would require converting your pedal cluster to accomodate a hydraulic clutch master cylinder. And you would also need to get creative for axles as the lengths will be different, as well as the flange diameter.
I did the above for my 1.8t conversion, and it is heads above in drivability over the 901 I moved from.
If you are only going to "toodle around", then what you have may work fine.
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post Aug 12 2008, 10:41 PM
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Very cool project, I will definitely be watching this one!
Nice work!
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post Aug 12 2008, 10:52 PM
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