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VOX Subaru Swap build |
VOX |
Feb 22 2009, 02:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 6-February 09 From: rosemead, ca Member No.: 10,027 Region Association: None |
Hey guys i'm new, name's James, i've been surfing the forum for the last few weeks. At first i was planning on building a sr20 datsun 240z, but through some convincing by dlo, i decided to go with a subaru swapped 914. i just picked up the 914 yesterday and started working on it today. I'll try to document what i do in this thread. anyways im new at this and i'm working on a limited budget, so anything you can contribute would be greatly appreciated. especially knowledge and parts on a subaru swap. i'm a full time student so its mostly a weekend project, i hope to get done by summer.
picked up the 914 from dale in lake elsinore. who still has a red roller for sale. heres how it sat when i showed up. it was sitting at the top of a long uphill dirt road which my car could not make it up. dale drove me and dlo up the hill to check out the car. very nice guy. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.1.jpg) heres the front trunk and gas tank. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.2.jpg) the rear trunk (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.3.jpg) here we are towing the car down the dirt road with dlo in the cockpit. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.5.jpg) finally next to the street. along with my car and onto the tow truck! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-10027-1305492155.7.jpg) |
VOX |
Feb 22 2009, 02:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 6-February 09 From: rosemead, ca Member No.: 10,027 Region Association: None |
here it is sitting at my house.
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5301.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5300.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5302.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5303.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5308.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5309.jpg) |
dlo914 |
Feb 22 2009, 02:05 AM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Guy's this car was a bargain! It's a 74' with front and rear sway bars, minimal rust. Battery tray is toast, but underneath is solid, rust bubble at right rear next to taillight, longs are solid, surface rust in front and rear trunks, and get this all for just $300.
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dlo914 |
Feb 22 2009, 02:07 AM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Our next goal is to find a suby powerplant, sideshift tranny, OEM engine bar and KEP adapter plate. Then we can begin to mock up the engine and tranny to fab the engine mounts.
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VOX |
Feb 22 2009, 02:22 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 6-February 09 From: rosemead, ca Member No.: 10,027 Region Association: None |
heres a picture of the battery tray, we're probably going to relocate it to one of the trunks. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5306.jpg)
the other side (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5277.jpg) rust on passenger rear quarter panel (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5276.jpg) ps. can anyone find the face in the first picture from my first post! and that dog in the picture with the van pulling the 914, it belonged to the neighbors, it followed us almost all the way down the dirt road, it belonged to the neighbors. heres a story. after we got it down the dirt road waiting for the tow truck driver. that building behind the picture with the 914 and the prelude, belonged to a previous 914 owner. he came out and talked to me, told me if the tow truck didnt make it that night we could roll the car into his property and leave it there til morning if i wanted to. very nice guy, i believe his name was K.C. or Casey. he went back inside and grabbed some framed pictures and brought them out to show me. a 72 white with red accents with a 911 6 swap. he said he sold it once he moved out here to a kid who was an audiophile (maybe one of you?) anyways what an experience owning a porsche |
pktzygt |
Feb 22 2009, 06:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 20-March 07 From: Chesapeake, VA Member No.: 7,611 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
heres a picture of the battery tray, we're probably going to relocate it to one of the trunks. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5306.jpg) the other side (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5277.jpg) rust on passenger rear quarter panel (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5276.jpg) ps. can anyone find the face in the first picture from my first post! and that dog in the picture with the van pulling the 914, it belonged to the neighbors, it followed us almost all the way down the dirt road, it belonged to the neighbors. heres a story. after we got it down the dirt road waiting for the tow truck driver. that building behind the picture with the 914 and the prelude, belonged to a previous 914 owner. he came out and talked to me, told me if the tow truck didnt make it that night we could roll the car into his property and leave it there til morning if i wanted to. very nice guy, i believe his name was K.C. or Casey. he went back inside and grabbed some framed pictures and brought them out to show me. a 72 white with red accents with a 911 6 swap. he said he sold it once he moved out here to a kid who was an audiophile (maybe one of you?) anyways what an experience owning a porsche If you go with a turbo subaru swap and decide to use renegade's intercooler relocation or your own solution, you'll have to move the battery anyway. Even if you don't plan on turbo, you'll eventually want more power, I always plan for an upgrade. I like to keep my targa in the trunk, so a front location makes more sense to me. In the front, you'll be closer to the fan relays anyway. |
smokey |
Feb 22 2009, 06:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
Your new car is a 1975 .
Can open , WERMS all over the place . GET ready for that experience Of your life . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
smokey |
Feb 22 2009, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: 15-June 07 From: Freedom Ca Member No.: 7,816 Region Association: None |
BUDGET and 914
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Ledzepplin Jumboe shrimp Bigysmall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) OK ? ok ?? |
jc914 |
Feb 22 2009, 07:24 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-September 08 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 9,548 Region Association: South East States |
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toon1 |
Feb 22 2009, 10:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
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Cool! good luck with your project. By the looks of all those doors he has had a few of them . might be a good parts source also. There is alot of info on Subi swaps in here. |
dlo914 |
Feb 22 2009, 11:29 AM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
really it's a 75? But the door jam says 74? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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charliew |
Feb 22 2009, 02:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Your new 914 might make a good race car start but all the missing little stuff is going to kill a little budget unless you have lots of friends with 914 parts.
Also all that cracked paint above the battery tray is not original paint it has been painted over and there is probably some filler there. You might want to poke around quite a bit before you spend a lot of money on stuff to make sure it's THE ONE you want to start with. Also using a suby tranny is probably cheaper than the 914 tranny and it's repairs + the kennedy stuff. |
roadster fan |
Feb 22 2009, 03:19 PM
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Project Frankenstein !!!!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Aptos, CA Member No.: 5,184 Region Association: Northern California |
prolly manufactured in 74 but a 1975 model. Guages and bumper mounts are definitely 75-76 items.
The vin prolly starts 475.......right? Still looks like it might be a good start, but as the man said it is missing alot of parts that can eat the budget up fast. Oh, and it looks like it may have had a six at one time, since the drivers side inner fenderwell has the cutouts removed for the oil tank. Post the vin, someone may know this car. Good luck with the project, the suby conversion has alot of support here. Jim |
VOX |
Feb 22 2009, 10:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 6-February 09 From: rosemead, ca Member No.: 10,027 Region Association: None |
spent the weekend cleaning up and started on the rust. the black you see in the engine bay is actually a paint on top of the yellow, which wasnt done very well because the black is flaking off real fast but the yellow underneath is still there.
i believe u guys are right, the car is a 75 made in 74. and how would a subaru tranny be used? more info on that would be great. the start of the day after cleaning out and vacuuming. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5313.jpg) items removed from car (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5316.jpg) before during and after battery tray removal. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5315.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5320.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5324.jpg) sound deadning removal and rust removal from floorpans. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5322.jpg) longs (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5325.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5326.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/EvoWizard/IMG_5327.jpg) |
dlo914 |
Feb 22 2009, 10:53 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Boy it's tiring chiseling away at the sound deadening material on the floor pans. We managed to Por-15 the passenger side. We hope to find what we're missing on the car at the G&R swap meet later in April. Next weekend we'll finish the driver side pan, then clean up the hell hole and por-15 and if time permits we'll sand down the rear trunk and por-15 that as well. Yeah the car was manufactured 10/74 and sold as a 75. Also discovered today that the passenger side jack slot has rust on the bottom shown above. We're gonna remove the jack slot and see if there's any extensive damage. As far as the driver side goes that long is actually rust free.
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VOX |
Feb 22 2009, 10:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 6-February 09 From: rosemead, ca Member No.: 10,027 Region Association: None |
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dlo914 |
Feb 23 2009, 12:36 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
There's actually no layer of tar or deadening in the wheel wells, was that original? There's only a crispy layer of black paint that chips off and reveals the original yellow.
Also, as far as interior goes it's going to be very bare. One aftermarket bucket seat, one original seat for passenger, simple door pull panels covered in vinyl, dynamat of some sort entire floor pan, then some carpeting for entire rest of interior, tear out stock dash and create one out of sheet metal, delete the air controls and radio, and that's all i can think of at the moment. But all this will be done after we finish the the power/drive train setup. |
dlo914 |
Feb 23 2009, 08:54 PM
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Whatchu' lookin' at?!?! Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 6-September 04 From: San Gabriel, CA Member No.: 2,697 |
Might have found an powerplant. We've got a choice of an EJ20 (non turbo) or EJ22. Both are rated around 145-150hp. Any pointers as to how to tell what year car these engines came from?
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charliew |
Feb 23 2009, 09:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
NASIOC is the place to get subaru driveline answers
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SirAndy |
Feb 23 2009, 09:44 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,889 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Did you guys prep the metal before you put the por15 down? Ospho? Metal Ready?
If not, you'll have surface rust bubble through in no time. Anyways, glad to see another one saved! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Andy |
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