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| Andyrew |
  Jan 19 2011, 01:01 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait  Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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Welcome to my Audi Turbo 914 build thread! This first post has been highly edited for your(and my) ease of navigation.
` (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-172-1428991066.jpg) ` The car 1973 Porsche 914 1.7 w/ appearance group package (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-172-1429499049.jpg) ` The Story: I purchased this car when I was 14years old and had bought 2 other 914s with it for a measly $1100, The other 2 914’s were basket cases and one had been in a roll over. The previous owner put the 2.0 from the roll over car in this car. I parted out the other two cars and DID A V8 CONVERSION on mine after I couldn’t figure out how to adjust the valves (It seemed easier..). I do a 5 lug conversion as well as put some fiberglass flares on the car and many other things before I decide to paint the car. That is the start of this thread. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295463716.1.jpg) ` Next I decide that I don’t like how the v8 drives and how I could never keep it cool so I decide to embark on a journey with an engine I was already more familiar with. The Audi 1.8T. To start at the 1.8T engine conversion click below. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...4780&st=309 Details on the car: Engine: Audi AEB 1.8t Engine, Fully rebuilt, balanced rotating assembly and blueprinted, balanced and clearanced Intermediate shaft. Crankshaft: Stock/polished Rods: Scat Forged I beam rods Pistons: Stock Cams: Stock Valves: Stock intake, Stainless nitrite coated Supertech exhaust AEVN-1103 Valve springs: Supertech high rpm valves SPRK-AUDI18 Piston rings: Goetze 08-502900-00 (Factory stock) Head gasket: Elring Stock head gasket Rod bearings: 034 Dry film coated bearings 034-202-1008 Crank bearings: 034 Dry film coated bearings 034-202-1000 Intake Manifold: Stock Throttle Body: Stock AWM Exhaust Manifold: APR Iconel Stage 3 manifold Exhaust: 3" turbo back stainless steel w/ 2 stainless resonators Intercooler: 700hp air to water core. Turbo: Comp Turbo triple ball bearing CTB5356 Injectors: Bosch 550CC injectors ported and flow matched to 1300CC Fuel Pump: Bosch 044 inside 034 Surge tank Fuel rail: Stock fed with AN10 line Water pump: Davies Craig EWP150 w/ LCD controller MAF: PMAS HPX MAF in 3" housing Boost controller: Cortex EBC Transmission: Audi A4 1.8 5 speed code EHV FWD unit 100mm stub axles from boxster transmission eBay sprung type LSD Wiring: Strip all Porsche wiring, Replace with Audi wiring 100% Engine Management: Modified OEM Audi Ecu Power brakes: Not yet ABS integration: Not yet Traction control integration: Not yet Launch control: Not yet Cruise control: Yes Climate control/AC: Yes OBD2 full control: Yes Check engine light: No smile.gif Front trunk and rear trunk: YES! 8psi: 240whp (Canyon and autox setting) 14psi: 280whp (Street) 17PSI: 300whp (Track and Street driving) (Estimated power goal) 30psi(E85): 400whp (Full tilt mode) Suspension: Raised 911 spindals up front with Koni yellows Mueller Roller Needle Bearings front and rear in leu of all bushings Turbo tie rods 22mm Torsion bars Nascar front sway bar Koni yellows rear 911 rear hubs with 100mm studs Ground control coil over kit in rear 225lb springs Brakes: 911 A calipers front Stock 914 rear calipers Vented rotors front and rear Porterfield semi race pads 19mm M/C Proportioning valve replaced with T Wheels: Boxter rear 17 x 8.5 twists up front with 245 40 17 911 turbo 18 x 10 turbo twists in back with 285 35 18 Body: Rich Bontempi HPH Flares Front and Rear, Molded 916 front and rear bumpers (front bumper to be reworked completely) 6" ducktail spoiler with supports Engman long stiffening kit Seam welded rear Camp 914 hood shocks rear Camp 914 Euro front turn signals Bike rack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Interior(In Progress): Fully custom interior (Still in design phase) Harness Bar 5 point Cam lock harnesses Pepboys Corbeau style seats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now that the intro is done, here is my checklist of things that I want to get done with it. Register *5-15-11* Fix ignition **5-30-11** Tune (again) ecu ** Converted back to Carbs after ECU died 5-30-11** Clean goo in trunk (pic) Install Dr window crank *5-30-11* Change oil ****Finished 1-29-11**** Change water pump *Received Remanufactured pump from Slits 1-26-11****Finished Install w/ hangups 1-29-11**** Flush coolant Finish targa bar S *Started progress on the bar* Dr front 1/4 *Sand day 1 1-29-11* *Bondo Day 2-1-11**Primer Day 2-19-11* Dr door *Sand day 1 1-29-11**Bondo Day 2-1-11*[/url]*Primer Day 2-19-11* Rocker pannels *5-7-11* Dr rear 1/4 *Sand day 1 1-29-11**Bondo Day 2-1-11*[/url]*Primer Day 2-19-11* Trunk *Removed spoiler, Plugged old spoiler holes, Long board sanded trunk* Rear bumper *Page 8* Pass rear 1/4 *4-17-11* Pass door *4-17-11* Pass front 1/4 *4-17-11* Front bumper *5-5-11* Hood *Primer 5-2-11* *Paint 5-15-11* Top *5-4-11[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=114780&st=120#] Primer sealer *5-15-11* Paint *5-15-11* Radiator cutouts in wheel well (And replace hood with stock) ***Completed 1-26-11*** Fix headlights *6-8-11* Fix horn Finish seat install ****Progress 1-19-11**** ***Finished 1-26-11*** Finish carpet *6-8-11* Finish front sway bar Fix Dr Door handle This post has been edited by Andyrew: Jan 15 2022, 09:16 PM |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 19 2011, 01:04 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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| Mike Bellis |
Jan 19 2011, 01:26 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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AWESOME! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
I want you to drive and enjoy. You going to buy a wrecked Audi or Passat? I do hope I get mine running first! |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 19 2011, 01:37 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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At this point its either... Im even entertaining alternate engine swaps...
But I really want a trani swap. Its all about what I stumble upon... Heck my friend has a slew of Honda B18's.. I've been thinking to myself "Just for the heck of it, could I put a honda engine in with the radiator in the fender and have both trunks? " However I still think the best setup is the 2.8 v6 with trani swap... Alas, that is another thread for another day... |
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| underthetire |
Jan 19 2011, 01:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Going to be one hell of a ride (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I'm thinking GM ecotech for an engine swap myself. |
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| pt_700 |
Jan 19 2011, 01:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 4-March 10 From: san jose, ca Member No.: 11,430 Region Association: Northern California
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will be following this with great interest as i plan on doing a similar swap myself someday. have a bunch of the rod simpson hybrid kit pieces but, got stupid and married and bought house before i finished. upgraded brakes / suspension are my future acquisitions.
how do you like the f.i. setup you're running? what kind of gas mileage you getting? what engine swap kit did you use? paul |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 19 2011, 02:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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F.I setup: Its actually a pretty great unit, HOWEVER it doesnt do programing on the fly (while running). So basically any tuning changes you make to the map have to be made while the engine is off (IE turn it off for 15 seconds then restart). This may not seem like much, but when your used to changing a cell until it is performing the way you want and move to the next cell, its a PITA and causes for much longer tuning times. That being said my dad uses this fuel injection setup on his BB 72 El Camino SS.
He gets 15mpg on a good day. I think I tracked 17-19mpg highway. The issue was RPM's. When your cruising at 3.5-4k rpm's you just cant get good gas milage. If I was at 1700rpms at 65mph I could probably get 25+ What I will say that the fuel injection gave me was a WHOLE LOT more power. Realistically ~75-100tq at low RPM and ~ 50hp. I previously had the car dyno tuned at 245whp and 275wtq on a 600 carb. The difference in power was night and day. When I hit the gas in second gear now I just light up the tires. Alas this is one of the reasons why I want to go with a different engine. In order for me to enjoy this engine It would have to make 10 more MPG and have ~ 100lbs of tq less. Right now it feels to powerful for me to take comfortably through the mountains and rip it up. Sure I could control it with my right foot but whats the fun in driving flat out when flat out is 25% throttle? Anything more than that and the back end wants to come around. |
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| shoguneagle |
 Jan 19 2011, 05:59 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
WHAT???? YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING OR DRIVING "MY CAR" FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS???? I LEFT IN YOUR CARE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING YOU WOULD WORK ON IT AND DRIVE IT!!!!
I am leaving today with the trailer to pick it up and take it Home!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Just kidding. I will be in California sometime this summer and will stop by to visit you. I am going to follow your thread with great interest for any changes, working on it, and driving it. It seems other priorities take place and push our car projects down the line. Take care and great to see you still have the 914. Steve Hurt Shoguneagle |
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| SGB |
Jan 19 2011, 07:05 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Sounds like a rocket.
You should look at Tangerine Racing's trailing arm stiffening too, I think... |
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| arkitect |
Jan 19 2011, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
Andrew,
Go with a Audi engine like you want, don't settle for something else. A deal will bound to come your way, just need to keep looking. Dave |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 20 2011, 01:24 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Got some progress done on the Pass side seat.
The drivers side seat I mounted with the provided sliders and removed the 914 bracket alltogether. The passenger seat where height isnt as big of an issue, I customized the seat mount and rewelded the mounting holes to use the 914 seat. Similar to rdauenhauer's in my "Pep Boys Seat" thread (link in first post). Almost finished the seat, but I couldnt find my step bit for enlarging the holes on the 914 slider, I tried ovaling them out but ran out of time. Tomorrow maybe? Here is a pic of the results and a link to the pictures. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508287.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508288.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508288.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508290.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508290.8.jpg) http://s1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc411/...14/914/1-19-11/ |
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| ernestj911@gmail.com |
Jan 21 2011, 12:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 20-July 06 Member No.: 6,472 |
This is a great 914 one the inspirations for me to get into these conversions. If you want more manageable power, then the easiest thing to do would be to put in a all Aluminum LS 5.3 GM engine. Your talkin 300hp. less 80-100bls. and fuel injected. Then when you are itching for more power, these things love mods, heck you can go 500 with this engine. Best of all you can find them for $500 bucks. You could have this thing running over a weekend. Then when you are board, bolt up that Audi transmission.
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| Gint |
Jan 21 2011, 08:20 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Is it done yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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| Andyrew |
Jan 22 2011, 02:08 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Nope, Very little going to be done today... I got roped into helping my GF setup for her best friends baby shower, AND I have to help during the shower tomorrow... Yesterday we went to the snow.. So pretty much this weekend is a wash, but I was expecting that. Monday i'll hit on it again and finish up the seat, then possibly work on something else. |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 25 2011, 01:19 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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No progress tonight on the 914, however I did spend way to much time installing a front motor mount on the CRX.
The car has traction bars (PO) and the traction bars didnt give any provisions for a front motor mount. Been driving the car for months without a front motor mount and changed all the other motor mounts, but still the motor clunked around. I got a front motor mount and have been meaning to install/weld in provisions for it but never got around to it. After installing my garage door a couple weeks ago I just happened to stumble upon some 1" x 3/16 extra bar that I could use. So scouring the bolts and modifying the incorrect front motor mount so it fit, I spent about 3 hours and got it all welded up. (ran out of welding wire as well...) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295939973.1.jpg) TOMORROW, I will get some work done on the 914... The CRX is now ready for an autox if I so feel it.. Yay! Gratuitious pic.. |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 26 2011, 11:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Finished the seat install!! I actually did most of the remaining fitting and reworking during lunch and got to the point of bolting it on before I had to leave lunch. I bolted it on when I got home and took a gratuitous pic for yall! Interior is starting to come together slightly! Just need to order (or make...) a carpet kit now.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105787.1.jpg) Next on the list was the water pump came in! So I jacked up the rear and put it on stands. Unfortunately I havent put in a drain petcock in the lowest point of the water system yet.... So I tried to pull one of the hoses off, but I could only get it open just a little bit with a screwdriver and let it drain.. In the meantime Dad brought over my stock hood and we decided to get to cutting the wheel well out. Couldnt find a template or anything to go off of, so I just started cutting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105400.2.jpg) Passenger side is smaller and both sides need finish touch up, but i'll get that finished when i do the bodywork on the hood. We installed the original hood and relined it up the best we could. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105401.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105402.4.jpg) So ends today. I'll let the water keep dripping overnight and maybe get some work done tomorrow. |
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| Lennies914 |
Jan 26 2011, 11:22 PM
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Slacker Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 9-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,216 Region Association: Northern California |
Looking good Andrew. Is that an orange band badge on the hood?
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| Mike Bellis |
Jan 26 2011, 11:39 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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| Andyrew |
Jan 27 2011, 12:26 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Lennies914 @ Jan 26 2011, 09:22 PM)  Looking good Andrew. Is that an orange band badge on the hood? No, its actually a newer style badge. IIRC, I actually have a new orange band badge in a box somewhere. I ordered it a while ago and they sent me the wrong one, told them and they gave me the new one free. IIRC (This was like my first purchase... 7 years ago?) |
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| Justinp71 |
Jan 27 2011, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,600 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None
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Lookin Good!
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