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jsayre914
post Jun 16 2011, 04:53 PM
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I have just orderd some wheel spacers for the front of my 914. They are 4 X 130 20mm spacers. These should bring the front wheels to about the same track as the rear, filling in the front wells. I am just doing it for looks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My question is the stock lug bolts are 38mm R14 ball seat. With these spacers I need to add the 20mm length. The closest I have found are radusadirect.com and they are 58mm R14 ball seat. I was about to order until I read some threads that stated studs and nuts are better???

what is the benefit? Are the 58mm bolts dangerous??

opinions???

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jsayre914
post Jun 16 2011, 04:55 PM
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p.s.

this is a street car only with factory fuches. (not a track car)
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post Jun 16 2011, 06:04 PM
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studs will keep you from driving the car as you will have to have them pressed into the rotors.

We all know which way you are going to go knowing that. :-)

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post Jun 17 2011, 05:29 AM
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Joe - I'm curious how this turns out for you. I too don't like the way the front tires are recessed so far into the body. Where'd you find these spacers? Make sure to post some pics (before / after) when you get 'em on.
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post Jun 17 2011, 06:42 AM
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Adding that much spacer will effectively soften the front end and therefore will increase oversteer.
If you can get the right length lug bolts and the price is reasonable go ahead and do it that way. It won't be any more dangerous than using long studs.
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post Jun 17 2011, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(sfrenck @ Jun 17 2011, 07:29 AM) *

Where'd you find these spacers?


United Kingdom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

http://machine7.com/

I will post before and after shots as well as how long these babys take to get to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

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post Jun 27 2011, 10:17 AM
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11 days from time of order to sitting on my desk. And they are sooooo shiney (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

still waiting on my longer lug bolts, then I will pop em on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

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post Jun 27 2011, 02:34 PM
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Wow those look fantastic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Let us know how they fit. Mine are flat, w/o that ring. 914 wheel spacers are not a common find.
I have the screw-in "racing studs" that used to be sold on the bmw racin web page, but I am not sure it they still are there. DON't get the screw in studs that use an allen head on the bolt, they work but many sources claim they are weak. Mine have 3 years, 10 AX races, and about 5k miles on them w/o worries.
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post Jun 27 2011, 02:49 PM
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Is this the type of bolt you're using?

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I have 16 of these if you're interested.
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post Jun 27 2011, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jun 27 2011, 04:49 PM) *

Is this the type of bolt you're using?
I have 16 of these if you're interested.


I have already orderd custom length bolts from Rad USA Direct, very nice guy. They are cutting me bolts for all 4 wheels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for the offer though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jun 29 2011, 04:44 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Bolts just came in the mail. I have 8 bolts 38mm and 8 bolts 58mm

They are a great company, easy to deal with and fast.


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post Jun 29 2011, 05:30 PM
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Joe,

Take pics of how the spacers fit on the hubs (before putting the tires on) as well.

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post Jun 29 2011, 05:44 PM
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Joe,

Take pics of how the spacers fit on the hubs (before putting the tires on) as well.

Scott

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post Jul 7 2011, 05:21 AM
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Joe,

Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update?

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post Jul 7 2011, 08:44 AM
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I would suggest that with those spacers you go down to the local hardware store and buy a 6 inch bolt (same threads) and cut off the head...then round over the end that you cut and put a slot in it for a screw driver.

Use that to hang the wheel and spacer while you put in the rest of the bolts....or you may end up going nuts in the process.

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post Jul 7 2011, 09:21 AM
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I used 930 wheel studs when I was doing a project like this, maybe not the chearpest studs, but proven and easy to find.

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post Jul 7 2011, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(sfrenck @ Jul 7 2011, 07:21 AM) *

Joe,

Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update?

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Holidays have been too busy, to give my car any attention. I caught a summer cold with a terrible cough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and my 3 week old kitten got strung up in a soccer net, went to the ER and may have to get her front leg amputated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I have not been here in a while.
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update once i feel a bit better (sorry)
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Jul 7 2011, 11:47 AM) *

QUOTE(sfrenck @ Jul 7 2011, 07:21 AM) *

Joe,

Too much fun looking at the car now that the spacers are installed to give an update?

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Holidays have been too busy, to give my car any attention. I caught a summer cold with a terrible cough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

and my 3 week old kitten got strung up in a soccer net, went to the ER and may have to get her front leg amputated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I have not been here in a while.
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update once i feel a bit better (sorry)


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Don't apologize - figured you're like me when it comes to putting new parts on the car (they need to be on the moment I get them).
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post Jul 7 2011, 10:01 PM
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Hope the kittie & everything else is OK...
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post Jul 8 2011, 08:24 AM
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Oh no! Which kitty? The bold one or the more timid? How did the vets go?
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