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stugray
post Dec 11 2013, 05:08 PM
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I need to know what "sandwich adapter" to purchase.

I have one, and the key parameters are:
thread that goes "onto" the stock filter bracket (adapter that filter threads onto)
size of fittings that go out to remote oil filter

I eyeballed the fittings that come from a sandwich adapter that I already have and it "looked like" 1/2" NPT, but the threads into the fitting are smaller.
I want to route from the sandwich adapter to 12AN to run to the front coolers for now.

Anyone have experience with high flow sandwich adapters?

It looks like I have enough meat to tap the sandwich adapter that I have up to 1/2" NPT but curious what others have done.

Next upgrade is blockoff plates and the full monty, but right now I would just like to hook 12AN fittings to a sandwich plate and run the stock filter adapter with filter.

I might even be interested in the thermostatically controlled adapter plates if anyone has experience.

Edit- And while I am at it: does the feed to the oil pump come into the middle of the oil filter?
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post Dec 11 2013, 05:35 PM
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I bought a Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread, hose, and fittings from Racer Parts Wholesale, but I am sure there are many other vendors.
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post Dec 11 2013, 05:55 PM
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Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread


Thanks!
I assume the above is:
sandwich plate outlet port size -3/4" NPT
adapter (black in above pic) - 3/4"NPT X 16AN
For a 16AN hose.

I chose 12AN, so my 1/2" NPT should work if I can retap & thread into my sandwich plate.

I still need to know the thread size for the adapter that screws into the filter adapter. (Oil filter thread size?)
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post Dec 11 2013, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(ww914 @ Dec 11 2013, 03:35 PM) *

I bought a Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread, hose, and fittings from Racer Parts Wholesale, but I am sure there are many other vendors.
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did your oil filter touch the motor mount?
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post Dec 11 2013, 06:16 PM
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I just measured and got 19X1.5mm for the filter threads.

O-ring is~ 70mm OD, 62mm ID

Looks like some nice stuff in here:
http://97.74.32.155/files/sp1t.pdf

Even the part for the BRZ would fit but it has a spacer to raise it UP (BRZ ref) when we want to minimize gap.
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post Dec 11 2013, 06:43 PM
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The threads for the hoses on my sandwich adapter are 3/8" NPT. I would prefer 1/2" (like the smallest of my oil lines are), but I decided to take what I could get.

I never measured the attachment to the filter flange and to the filter (one piece), as I figured they were very thoroughly standardized in size.

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post Dec 11 2013, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Jetsetsurfshop @ Dec 11 2013, 04:15 PM) *

QUOTE(ww914 @ Dec 11 2013, 03:35 PM) *

I bought a Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread, hose, and fittings from Racer Parts Wholesale, but I am sure there are many other vendors.
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did your oil filter touch the motor mount?


Nope. It's close but doesn't touch.
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post Dec 11 2013, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Dec 11 2013, 03:55 PM) *

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Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread


Thanks!
I assume the above is:
sandwich plate outlet port size -3/4" NPT
adapter (black in above pic) - 3/4"NPT X 16AN
For a 16AN hose.

I chose 12AN, so my 1/2" NPT should work if I can retap & thread into my sandwich plate.

I still need to know the thread size for the adapter that screws into the filter adapter. (Oil filter thread size?)


I used 10AN hose and fittings.

Here's the list off my invoice:
1 - Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread
1 - Mocal 1/2" BSP x -10 fitting
2 - Mocal 1/2' x -10 ORB fitting
2 - Mocal Dowty Seal
2 - -10 Aeroquip straight reusable swivel fitting
6 - -10 Aeroquip SS Braided hose
2 - -10 Aeroquip 45 degreee reusable elbow fitting
1 - Setrab STD 125 oil cooler

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post Dec 12 2013, 11:59 AM
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Do you have a part # for:

1 - Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread

Or a thread size for the adapter?
I'm not sure I trust my 19mm measurement as I typically find these in 18 or 20mm adapters.
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post Dec 12 2013, 12:25 PM
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The threaded adapter isn't metric.
Your measurement of 19 x 1.5 is approximately 3/4 - 16
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post Dec 12 2013, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Dec 12 2013, 09:59 AM) *

Do you have a part # for:

1 - Mocal Sandwich Plate 3/4" - 16 thread

Or a thread size for the adapter?
I'm not sure I trust my 19mm measurement as I typically find these in 18 or 20mm adapters.


Racer Parts number is MOC-SP1T
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post Dec 12 2013, 01:37 PM
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Your measurement of 19 x 1.5 is approximately 3/4 - 16


Ahhh... when ww914 stated his adapter plate was 3/4 - 16 I thought that meant 3/4" NPT to 16AN apapters.

Thanks
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post Dec 12 2013, 02:05 PM
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Your measurement of 19 x 1.5 is approximately 3/4 - 16


Ahhh... when ww914 stated his adapter plate was 3/4 - 16 I thought that meant 3/4" NPT to 16AN apapters.

Thanks


Sorry stugray, I just read it off the invoice so I would get it right. Anyway, here's a photo of where my oil cooler is. Chris Foley helped me with this location. While it works pretty good, as you can see it is above my SS headers, which is why I made the duct work around the cooler so as not to get too much heat from the engine and the headers. When I get my Tangerine headers installed, the right side will have tons more room because most of the header tubing is on the left side. I plan to lower the cooler a bit to try and get as much unheated air as I can. Good luck with your project.



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post Dec 12 2013, 02:36 PM
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Good thread! I am considering one of these 'sandwich' adapters too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 12 2013, 04:33 PM
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Good luck with your project.


Thanks

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I have better pics that show the carbon fiber ducts & the exit holes in the fenderwell.

One on each side, now I need to plumb them with 12AN hose down the passenger side heater duct. Then to the adapter.

Next year I will redo the plumbing from the engine to eliminate the sandwich adapter and probably add a remote oil filter bracket and a thermostat.
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post Dec 12 2013, 05:37 PM
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Looks like a dedicated race car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Dec 12 2013, 05:40 PM
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Do these sandwiches have a thermostat or are they always on flow?
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:03 PM
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Do these sandwiches have a thermostat or are they always on flow?


I believe they are closed until reaching 180 degs
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:05 PM
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Looks like a dedicated race car.


It is, but it could still be made street legal with minimal work.
The install of the coolers would allow me to put the headlights back in if I wanted to.

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Do these sandwiches have a thermostat or are they always on flow?

You can buy them both ways. The link above has both.
I am drooling over the BRZ adapter plate since I have a BRZ also.
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post Dec 12 2013, 06:34 PM
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Thanks! I think I will go with full time flow and a smaller oil cooler that I can fit into the R/H wheel well ........ then see how that works ..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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