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| 76-914 |
 Feb 17 2014, 06:45 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist  Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California 
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It's a 1990 VW Scirroco radiator if that helps. The hole size is 1/2" ips nom. See 2nd pic with 1/2" PVC nipple threaded in. It would also require an o-ring or gasket to seal. Any idea's or should I head to the junk yard? TIA, Kent
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| steuspeed |
Feb 17 2014, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,008 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Temp sensor for electric fan I believe. Should have two blades for wires to attatch. It's possible the later Scirocco had a molex connector. Looks like your wires are cut anyway.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 17 2014, 07:03 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Fan switch. Some have 1 circuit and 2 wires, some have 2 circuits and 3 wires (one speed or two). You'll need this to control when the fan runs and when it doesn't. They use either a thick paper or copper gasket (I prefer the paper one). Switches run 10-30 bucks. You'll need a wiring diagram to determine which switch and how to wire it. The wrench you need is a 29mm, but a 30mm will work.
The Cap'n |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 17 2014, 07:44 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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I should have said this is a 914 conversion. Suby drivetrain w/factory Suby ECU to control the fans. I need to plug it but a sender might be the easy route.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 17 2014, 07:49 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
There is a plug, but I have no idea where you'd find one. Needs to have a machined flange for the seal. You'll need to relay the fan.
The Cap'n |
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| computers4kids |
Feb 17 2014, 08:42 PM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
I have a wiring diagram for you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I can even show you which relays work best (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) sorry, couldn't resist.
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| timothy_nd28 |
Feb 17 2014, 08:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,299 Joined: 25-September 07 From: IN Member No.: 8,154 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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| 76-914 |
Feb 17 2014, 09:11 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Good one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) And Cap't, it does appear to have a raised flange for washer contact.
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| ruby914 |
Feb 17 2014, 10:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 26-April 09 From: Hawthorne, Ca Member No.: 10,305 Region Association: None |
There should be a temp sensor on the motor. It seems, that would be a beter place to check the temp.
I think, I pluged the hole with a temp sensor, not wired up. |
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| mittelmotor |
Feb 18 2014, 04:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-May 12 From: SoCal Member No.: 14,464 Region Association: None |
Here's a fan switch from JEGS:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/16730/100...CFdeUfgodfWcAKQ Even though I have fan trigger wires from the ECU (Chevy LS1 fuel-injected conversion), I like the simplicity of this switch-triggered setup that's supplied by Renegade Hybrids. I have dual Spal fans, and I was a little surprised at the amp draw at startup...spikes at a little over 40 amps (I know this because a 40-amp fuse lasted "a little while"). 60-amp protection, er, currently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 18 2014, 07:16 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(mittelmotor @ Feb 18 2014, 02:45 PM)  Here's a fan switch from JEGS: http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/16730/100...CFdeUfgodfWcAKQ Even though I have fan trigger wires from the ECU (Chevy LS1 fuel-injected conversion), I like the simplicity of this switch-triggered setup that's supplied by Renegade Hybrids. I have dual Spal fans, and I was a little surprised at the amp draw at startup...spikes at a little over 40 amps (I know this because a 40-amp fuse lasted "a little while"). 60-amp protection, er, currently. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yea thx but that one is ips or tapered thd. I'll need something with a washer as the Cap'n mentioned. |
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| mittelmotor |
Feb 19 2014, 12:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 21-May 12 From: SoCal Member No.: 14,464 Region Association: None |
I just threw that switch out there as a quick example. My fan switch originally had a fiber washer that dripped a little bit, but I changed over to an O-ring seal plus some sealant and it's been great.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 19 2014, 12:52 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 17 2014, 07:11 PM) Good one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) And Cap't, it does appear to have a raised flange for washer contact. I was speaking of the flange on the plug that could be used there. The fan switches have that sealing area incorporated in the design. To answer the switch availability issue, the VW OE or OES switch would probably be best because it's readily available in a variety of temperature ranges, it's cheap, and it fits without fooling around. The paper gasket works fine, or you can opt for the copper washer. There's no relief for an o-ring, so that would be one of the last things I would look at for sealing the joint. The Cap'n |
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| 2mAn |
Feb 19 2014, 12:55 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
never knew they made Sciroccos in 1990 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) How does that fit in the frunk? Any pics?
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Feb 19 2014, 02:56 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(2mAn @ Feb 19 2014, 10:55 AM) never knew they made Sciroccos in 1990 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) How does that fit in the frunk? Any pics? They didn't. '89 was the last model year. The Cap'n |
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| TravisNeff |
Feb 19 2014, 03:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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88 was the last year, and that was my first brand new car. I sure miss it!
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| 76-914 |
Feb 19 2014, 03:50 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Feb 19 2014, 10:52 AM) QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 17 2014, 07:11 PM) Good one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) And Cap't, it does appear to have a raised flange for washer contact. I was speaking of the flange on the plug that could be used there. The fan switches have that sealing area incorporated in the design. To answer the switch availability issue, the VW OE or OES switch would probably be best because it's readily available in a variety of temperature ranges, it's cheap, and it fits without fooling around. The paper gasket works fine, or you can opt for the copper washer. There's no relief for an o-ring, so that would be one of the last things I would look at for sealing the joint. The Cap'n All good info though I'll stay away from the crush washer. I'm afraid it wouldn't seal well against the plastic face of the radiator. I'm glad you've retired. It gives you more time to answer questions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(2mAn @ Feb 19 2014, 10:55 AM) never knew they made Sciroccos in 1990 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) How does that fit in the frunk? Any pics? Doug, Look in my build thread http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=201776&hl= there are several shots of it installed. And maybe it was a Golf or Jetta. I'll have to look back. And somebody needs to set Wikipedia straight on this.......... Volkswagen Scirocco From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Volkswagen Scirocco VW Scirocco III 2.0 TSI front 20100410.jpg Overview Manufacturer Volkswagen Production 1974–1992 2008–present Body and chassis Class Sport compact Layout Front-engine, front-wheel-drive Chronology Predecessor Volkswagen Karmann Ghia The Volkswagen Scirocco is a sport compact coupe produced by the German manufacturer Volkswagen, undergoing two generations of development between 1974 and 1992 and reintroduced in a third generation in August 2008. |
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