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> Stock injectors on a 2.1L?, Instead of webers
mtndawg
post Sep 21 2014, 04:39 PM
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I recently acquired a car that was originally a 2L and have been told the engine size has been changed to 2.1, which I have not checked yet? The engine currently has webers. Can I use stock d-jet FI if it is 2.1?
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Mark Henry
post Sep 21 2014, 04:41 PM
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If it has a carb cam ...then it's no.
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post Sep 21 2014, 06:19 PM
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What you can do is use most of the stock d-jet components except the ecu, cold start valve and throttle position sensor and then add an aftermarket ecu, Megasquirt in my case, with a few newer sensors for throttle position and intake air temperature.

This can be done for as little as $500 if you DIY or as much as $2,500 if you have someone do the work for you.

As far as the injectors are concerned the 2 liter d-jet injector flow rate is sufficient to support almost 200 hp.
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post Sep 21 2014, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Sep 21 2014, 02:41 PM) *

If it has a carb cam ...then it's no.

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So if you can find out about that detail you have an answer. Yes, I have a 2056 running stock FI, but working around an aftermarket cam has been tricky. Impossible if the cam were designed to take advantage of the Webers.
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post Sep 22 2014, 04:51 AM
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The newer FJ67 injectors that are sold as replacements for the Bosch have slightly higher flow rates. I am running a 2056 with stock FI and cam with no issues.
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post Sep 22 2014, 05:48 PM
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If you're after a cheap option to try, you can increase the fuel pressure to the injectors by adjusting the pressure regulator. Probably best to install a pressure gage in there to what you're doing. Remember that flow rate is proportional to the square root of pressure to your injectors, thus is you want 10% more flow you need to increase pressure by 1.1 squared, or 21%.
Since you're only increasing displacement by 5%, in theory you'll only need 10.25% pressure increase.
Not sure just how much a stock pump is capable of putting out however, no experience there.
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post Sep 23 2014, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(Dtjaden @ Sep 21 2014, 05:19 PM) *

What you can do is use most of the stock d-jet components except the ecu, cold start valve and throttle position sensor and then add an aftermarket ecu, Megasquirt in my case, with a few newer sensors for throttle position and intake air temperature.

This can be done for as little as $500 if you DIY or as much as $2,500 if you have someone do the work for you.

As far as the injectors are concerned the 2 liter d-jet injector flow rate is sufficient to support almost 200 hp.


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Tunable EFI is the way to go IMHO. At least look into it. . .
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