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LukeD
post Jun 9 2015, 09:21 AM
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Jumping back into the 914 scene, got a lead on a 1 owner signal orange 73 - 1.7 that has been sitting outside in Central Valley California uncovered for about 20 years ("ran when parked"). Went and looked at the car yesterday, little surface rust on the battery tray, no visible rust under it, passenger long has no visible rust. Seems complete but obviously weather beaten. He only wants a couple hundred dollars so I'm not going to pass it up. Looking for a checklist of absolute musts to attempt to get the car started

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- Remove fuel tank, clean and check for rust
- replace all fuel lines and filter
- replace injector seals
- soak injectors? in what?
- change oil with what type?
- clean all contact on relay board and fuse panel

What else?

Anyone point me to some threads of those that have done this before? I've searched for "resurrect" "revive" "sitting outside" no good hits.

Thanks!

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malcolm2
post Jun 9 2015, 09:28 AM
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Brakes: hoses, calipers and the MC.....! And let's see it. Sounds like a good find.
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post Jun 9 2015, 09:53 AM
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And let's see it. Sounds like a good find.

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post Jun 9 2015, 09:55 AM
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tires too
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post Jun 9 2015, 10:05 AM
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Vacuum hoses.


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post Jun 9 2015, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Jun 9 2015, 08:28 AM) *

Brakes: hoses, calipers and the MC.....! And let's see it. Sounds like a good find.


Sadly in my excitement over the price I failed to take any but it's coming home on a flat bed later today so I'll post some tonight.

Anything I'm missing to get it started? Should I shoot some mystery oil into spark plug holes?
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post Jun 9 2015, 10:28 AM
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After some of the pictures I have seen recently about old cases being drained of oil and getting a really nasty looking fluid come out, I would:
Dont even crank the engine but drain it first, fill with the cheapest oil you can get.
Put in a known good battery that is fully charged.
disconnect the Ign wire from the coil
Hook it to a good batt charger with cranking assist and crank it for as long as it takes to register 'some' oil pressure ( I use a mechanical pressure gauge installed at the pressure port near the dist.)
Repeat the above if you have the patience.
You should only get ~3.5 quarts each time you drain the engine.
Then drain it the final time and replace with Brad Penn or Valvoline VR1 racing oil.

All before trying to start it
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post Jun 9 2015, 11:57 AM
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This is what I did to get my 1974 914 1.8 started:

1. Put some fresh oil in the engine.

2. Changed a broken hose.

3. Didn't have spark, so I removed, cleaned and gapped the points inside the distributor.

4. Put some fuel inside the throttle vane. It did start and ran a few seconds. GOOD!

5. Removed and cleaned the gas tank. (it had gummy residue inside and the lines on the bottom were plugged). Put the tank back in and poured a gallon of fuel and a bottle of injector cleaner.

6. Removed the injectors from the engine but left the connected to the fuel supply line to see if they would squirt fuel while cranking. They did not. So i got some carburetor cleaner spray and did my best to clean them.

7. Connected the injectors (4) back on the fuel supply lines and cranked the engine. They were now squirting some fuel. GOOD! Put them back in the engine.

8. For the next month or so I ran the engine a few times (parked) a week adding more fuel and injector cleaner to the tank. Each time it ran better. After a few weeks the engine would run to redline and idle back perfectly.

9. Next I put the rear on jackstands and changed the transmission oil. Removed the wheels and ran the engine and changed gears to see if the gearbox worked. Gearbox GOOD!

Hope this helps

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post Jun 9 2015, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(LukeD @ Jun 9 2015, 09:05 AM) *

QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Jun 9 2015, 08:28 AM) *

Brakes: hoses, calipers and the MC.....! And let's see it. Sounds like a good find.


Sadly in my excitement over the price I failed to take any but it's coming home on a flat bed later today so I'll post some tonight.

Anything I'm missing to get it started? Should I shoot some mystery oil into spark plug holes?


If you are going to be there when they load it on the flat bed, get some pics of the car where it sat for 20yrs, weeds and all. You'll want to document how far the car has come back from.

Good luck. sounds like a great find.
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post Jun 9 2015, 12:42 PM
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Hey Claus,

How long had it been since your 1.8 last ran?


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post Jun 9 2015, 12:52 PM
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Sounds like a solid project. Rust is always the biggest deal. The others are much easier to work through. So good to hear it is solid. Looking forward to the pics & good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 9 2015, 08:53 PM
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come to find out the car has sat in this location for about 8 years and 12 years at the previous location. Tow truck driver had the car nearly loaded before I got there and took pics


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post Jun 9 2015, 08:54 PM
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post Jun 9 2015, 08:55 PM
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In my opinion I would pour Marvel Mystery oil down the spark plug hole and or PB Blaster sprayed into each cylinder to brake the rings away from cylinders. Then take an air lines and put a little air to move the oil around wait two days and do it again. After about a week hand roll the engine over or put the car in 2nd see if you can roil it gently. Now drain the oil and ad new oil ( 30 weight ) put the injection together start it and see what you got??? It will smoke allot for about 10 minutes, keep the RPM way down, And don't forget to adjust the valves before starting the motor. Good Luck.

I just did this for a 73 914 2.0 that was sitting for 33 years I drove the car within 5 hours of getting it home with a single carb. It ran so good I did not rebuild it I just pulled it & resealed everything returned it back to F.I. and its been great.
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safe at home, just needs new tires, fresh gas and its ready to go right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


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post Jun 9 2015, 08:57 PM
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Don't paint it..... if that the original paint. buff it out you will be surprised.

FYI I would have paid about 2k for that car. I would say you got a great deal. 1.7 sell very well IMHO

have fun getting the wheel locks off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PB blaster everything under the car brakes every bolt you can see
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post Jun 9 2015, 09:04 PM
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You daggone Californians.

Doesn't anything rust over there?
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post Jun 9 2015, 09:10 PM
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safe at home, just needs new tires, fresh gas and its ready to go right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)


Right. In fact that tire can probably be fixed! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

Looks fun, congrats on the new project. Another one saved from the elements. Change those fuel lines!
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post Jun 9 2015, 09:48 PM
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Looks promising. Don't forget to add the VIN to the database.
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post Jun 9 2015, 10:37 PM
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Nice car are you in the Fresno area I saw your from the Central Valley . If you Ned anything let me know . I have a stash of parts .
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