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Mazda RX7 Oil Cooler Flow, Does It Matter Which Way? |
Lucky9146 |
Aug 3 2015, 12:17 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Have a modified RX7 Oil Cooler that came with the car which was in process of a 6 conversion. Hoses are run to the engine bay ready to hook up to thermostat. Does anyone know if it matters if the oil enters from the top of cooler or bottom or does it really matter? Internal Tank thermostat is removed already I am going to run a Mocal. Appreciate the input especially from anyone actually running one. Thanks!
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screenguy914 |
Aug 3 2015, 01:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 6-July 09 From: So. Cal Member No.: 10,540 Region Association: Southern California |
Have a modified RX7 Oil Cooler that came with the car which was in process of a 6 conversion. Hoses are run to the engine bay ready to hook up to thermostat. Does anyone know if it matters if the oil enters from the top of cooler or bottom or does it really matter? Internal Tank thermostat is removed already I am going to run a Mocal. Appreciate the input especially from anyone actually running one. Thanks! Typically, oil should exit from the top most fitting. That way, trapped air can circulate out of the cooler. Sherwood |
Lucky9146 |
Aug 3 2015, 01:21 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Have a modified RX7 Oil Cooler that came with the car which was in process of a 6 conversion. Hoses are run to the engine bay ready to hook up to thermostat. Does anyone know if it matters if the oil enters from the top of cooler or bottom or does it really matter? Internal Tank thermostat is removed already I am going to run a Mocal. Appreciate the input especially from anyone actually running one. Thanks! Typically, oil should exit from the top most fitting. That way, trapped air can circulate out of the cooler. Sherwood Thanks Sherwood that makes sense and I hadn't though of that. |
lonewolfe |
Aug 3 2015, 02:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Have a modified RX7 Oil Cooler that came with the car which was in process of a 6 conversion. Hoses are run to the engine bay ready to hook up to thermostat. Does anyone know if it matters if the oil enters from the top of cooler or bottom or does it really matter? Internal Tank thermostat is removed already I am going to run a Mocal. Appreciate the input especially from anyone actually running one. Thanks! Typically, oil should exit from the top most fitting. That way, trapped air can circulate out of the cooler. Sherwood Thanks Sherwood that makes sense and I hadn't though of that. I have this same oil cooler but it's not installed yet. Do you have any more pictures you can post of how it's mounted? Also, are those electric fans mounted on the back side of the cooler? |
'73-914kid |
Aug 3 2015, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,473 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Vista, CA Member No.: 9,714 Region Association: Southern California |
I concur. I was always told with oil coolers, "in low, out high" for the same reason Sherwood mentions.
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Lucky9146 |
Aug 3 2015, 03:36 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
I have this same oil cooler but it's not installed yet. Do you have any more pictures you can post of how it's mounted? Also, are those electric fans mounted on the back side of the cooler?
[/quote] Yes I have pictures of the fabricated frame and fans that I cannot take credit for making because the PO did it and a good job at that! Trying to post pictures but not working for me this time will try again later. Sorry |
lonewolfe |
Aug 3 2015, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
[quote name='Lucky9146' date='Aug 3 2015, 02:36 PM' post='2218255']
I have this same oil cooler but it's not installed yet. Do you have any more pictures you can post of how it's mounted? Also, are those electric fans mounted on the back side of the cooler? [/quote] Yes I have pictures of the fabricated frame and fans that I cannot take credit for making because the PO did it and a good job at that! Trying to post pictures but not working for me this time will try again later. Sorry [/quote] Thanks for the reply! I'll keep an eye out for the pictures later. Does your setup have a shroud that covers the oil cooler and fans inside the trunk? |
Lucky9146 |
Aug 3 2015, 03:50 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Yes I have pictures of the fabricated frame and fans that I cannot take credit for making because the PO did it and a good job at that! Trying to post pictures but not working for me to well trying
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rhodyguy |
Aug 3 2015, 06:04 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,192 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
You might want to cushion the line where it passes thru the hole. Actually, there is a little flexible plastic circle designed to do just that.
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Lucky9146 |
Aug 3 2015, 06:26 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE You might want to cushion the line where it passes thru the hole. Actually, there is a little flexible plastic circle designed to do just that. Thanks those are actually old pics from PO that I provided at Lonewolf request to see fans and cooler. |
gms |
Aug 6 2015, 09:23 AM
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McMark |
Aug 6 2015, 09:26 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
If the thermostat has been gutted, you can flow the oil either direction.
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jcd914 |
Aug 6 2015, 10:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
If memory serves me, there are 4 rows in one direction and 3 rows the other way.
I would think you would want to flow the hot oil in on the 3 rows and back out on the 4 rows. The oil will cool and thicken some in the first pass and will flow easier and slower thru the 4 rows back out. I'm no engineer but this seem most efficient to me. I don't have a cooler here to look at and see if that is how Mazda did it or not. Jim |
Lucky9146 |
Aug 6 2015, 11:31 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Glen, thanks for the picture of the RX7 oil cooler flow. I looked but apparently not hard enough to find it! That is how I had it and then switched it to the opposite direction because some have told me it should go in the bottom out the top. Now I don't know if I should switch back it because as others have told me it can flow either way! Thanks again maybe others will chime in. |
gms |
Aug 7 2015, 07:46 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
As Mark said, if you removed the thermostat it does not matter.
I did not see that when i posted |
Mark Henry |
Aug 7 2015, 10:54 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE Typically, oil should exit from the top most fitting. That way, trapped air can circulate out of the cooler. Although this sounds logical, I doubt it really matters, oil pressure will push any air out PDQ. If you follow the above schematic the oil flows out the bottom. |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 7 2015, 05:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,652 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Thank you Glen for posting the factory diagram.
I have that cooler and was going to use it for a GT project. By handling it I realized that there was a thermo incorporated in it. I've since found a better configuration(for me) but I wonder why someone wouldn't use the built-in thermostat ? Two hoses to the front, built in by-pass, easy peasy ! nothing more needed. |
lonewolfe |
Aug 7 2015, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Perhaps the thermostat temperature setting is in the wrong range for an aircooled motor. Also, it's better to have the thermostat located closer to the engine heat source. That seems to be the majority opinion.
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