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post Oct 28 2015, 09:59 AM
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Not sure if the one on Andy's car is what we call the 916 style but it is the one I am referring to. My question is 2 part. What is the benefit of the 916 bumper? Surely Porsche designed it to improve performance, no? Secondly, does that bumper improve the air flow thru the grille because of it's shape? Just thinking ahead for this summer since I have installed AC. I might need a little extra air flow. TIA, Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:19 AM
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I think Sir Andy has the 916-style bumpers. I have no clue if it improves flow etc, but at least there is a cutout area for a cooler.
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(AZ914 @ Oct 28 2015, 09:19 AM) *

I think Sir Andy has the 916-style bumpers. I have no clue if it improves flow etc, but at least there is a cutout area for a cooler.

Thx for that bit of advice. I will change the title.
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post Oct 28 2015, 11:38 AM
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Mine are 916 style FG reproduction bumpers. Unfortunately, even the nicer ones are a crappy facsimile of the original.

The original 916 bumpers added more downforce to the front and allowed for a front mounted oil-cooler.

The repros suck. All of them.
I have never seen any aftermarket ones that were an exact copy of the original.

They are all so bad that i firmly believe none of them were actually molded off a original bumper.
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post Oct 28 2015, 12:24 PM
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Mine are 916 style FG reproduction bumpers. Unfortunately, even the nicer ones are a crappy facsimile of the original.

The original 916 bumpers added more downforce to the front and allowed for a front mounted oil-cooler.

The repros suck. All of them.
I have never seen any aftermarket ones that were an exact copy of the original.

They are all so bad that i firmly believe none of them were actually molded off a original bumper.
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That's OK. I can re-work FGlass. Was the OEM design about increasing air flow as well or just the downward thrust that you mention? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 28 2015, 12:40 PM
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That's OK. I can re-work FGlass. Was the OEM design about increasing air flow as well or just the downward thrust that you mention? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Good luck trying to re-work them. The overall shape is completely off. Not even close to the original.
You'd be better off starting from scratch.
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What air-flow are you talking about?
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post Oct 28 2015, 12:47 PM
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Buy a used one for $50. See if you like it on the car. There are a lot of used ones floating around. Many were used to replace the front steel bumper after a hit.
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 28 2015, 11:40 AM) *

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That's OK. I can re-work FGlass. Was the OEM design about increasing air flow as well or just the downward thrust that you mention? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Good luck trying to re-work them. The overall shape is completely off. Not even close to the original.
You'd be better off starting from scratch.
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What air-flow are you talking about?
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Hmm, no. Wasn't planning on re-working the entire piece. I thought you meant it has fitment issues which isn't unusual. Re:air flow; In your case it would be across the oil cooler. For my application; the radiator. Another question. Is your front hood metal or fglass? If metal, do you have any info on the louvered hood? TIA
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:22 PM
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Check page 15 of Andy's build thread (top one). Looks like three simple slits in the hood. See the air duct underneath. That's the good part. Bob was playing with the idea of using a Mustang GT500 hood grill. It fit pretty well on the 914 hood. He spent several hours at the Ford dealership measuring it IIRC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Didn't end up needing it for the LS car.

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post Oct 28 2015, 02:37 PM
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My 914 came with FG 916 bumpers and I can say that the fit of the front bumper is not good. The top of the front bumper sits about 1/4 to 3/8-inch lower than the edge of the front hood.
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 28 2015, 11:40 AM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 28 2015, 11:24 AM) *
That's OK. I can re-work FGlass. Was the OEM design about increasing air flow as well or just the downward thrust that you mention? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Good luck trying to re-work them. The overall shape is completely off. Not even close to the original.
You'd be better off starting from scratch.
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What air-flow are you talking about?
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I think he is reffering to the "splitter" like design on the bottom.

The biggest issues with the cheap knock off's are the fact that they flatten the face of the bumper really really badly and look horrible.

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Real...

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The worst fake's I have seen..

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/(KGrHqMOKoYE...3;~~/s-l500.jpg
The best fakes I have seen


Most are somewhere in between.

That best one is from an ebay auction. Its not perfect, but it looks like someone is making a decent replica now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131274212532
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post Oct 28 2015, 03:17 PM
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They're ugly bumpers anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Oct 28 2015, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 28 2015, 02:17 PM) *

They're ugly bumpers anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

You negative, cranky assed old Fart. What'da you know anyway? How ya been?
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post Oct 28 2015, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 28 2015, 04:22 PM) *

Check page 15 of Andy's build thread (top one). Looks like three simple slits in the hood. See the air duct underneath. That's the good part. Bob was playing with the idea of using a Mustang GT500 hood grill. It fit pretty well on the 914 hood. He spent several hours at the Ford dealership measuring it IIRC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Didn't end up needing it for the LS car.

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And here it is on my car. Its not even bolted down just setting in the hole I cut. I may use this when I add AC this summer

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post Oct 28 2015, 05:42 PM
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Kent, a buddy down here has one that he'd part with for cheap. Come grab it and see if it fits. haha
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post Oct 28 2015, 06:06 PM
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I wish I had known. I just threw my old one out!
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post Oct 28 2015, 07:35 PM
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I seen a scoop/ vent on a new camero,..just yesterday,.it looked like it would work fine also,..I wouldn't mind trying to use the style that Mike Bellis used as his side vents,..on the Audi powerd 914,..just less dramatic for hood use...FM
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post Oct 28 2015, 08:03 PM
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See if you can find the pictures of the reworked steel bumper McMark did with a large cooler opening in the bottom, and a matching valance with a large opening in the top.....really a sharp setup, and functional.
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post Oct 28 2015, 08:54 PM
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So many guys throwing these out makes me wonder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Rich, I'd love to see that but even on a good day my 914world search results usually return four to six hundred threads. Ethan, can you can get info on condition, location, cost? Bob, your hood vent looks great. Be sure to share your AC work with us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 29 2015, 06:58 AM
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When AA began selling the 916 bumpers, were they a copy off their real 916 ?
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