Porsche certificate, for my 914 Options

[daytona]

Hi guys,
Can anyone tell me where I can get a certificate from Porsche showing all the particulars about my car? I decided to sell one of my 914s and I like to have a certificate showing it is a numbers matching car.
Thanks,
Bill.

[Chi-town]

They don't do them (Certificate of Authenticity)anymore.

They were replaced with:
https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesands...calcertificate/

[SirAndy]

https://www.pca.org/resource/porsche-certif...uthenticity-coa

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[JeffBowlsby]

Here is a recent PPS:

[Racer]

They seem to get worse and worse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) In the old days, for the Engine, it would have the numbers the car came with.. then they would ask you for numbers and they would just verify if correct.. and then they took what ever numbers you gave them.

All that said, its likely worth it to the next owner that you have a COA (PPS) from somepoint in time.

[914werke]

They seem to get worse and worse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) All that said, its likely worth it to the next owner that you have a COA (PPS) from somepoint in time.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but given the (lack of) info now provided not much value if you plan on keeping it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Ansbacher]

Porsche's mentality on this reminds me of the practice of long-established rock bands hawking cheesy t-shirts at intermission. They've made their millions, but still want to milk their faithful for a few more bucks. I don't need a t-shirt to prove I went to a concert and I don't need a COA or whatever their calling it now to prove I own the authentic 914 that's sitting in my garage. Gee, is there a possibility that it was cranked out in a Chinese sweatshop like a fake Rolex- I think not. Could it be a kit car- I don't think anybody is making kits of the most derided model in Porsche history. If Porsche was loyal to its fans and enthusiasts, they would provide to them every scrap of production and delivery info they could garnish in a single document at a reasonable cost. And as far as them providing a hands-on inspection by one of their so-called "classic experts", give me a break. I'll bet that "expert" is some millennial they sent to a one-week seminar to teach him that his company did actually produce cars before the Cayenne.

Ansbacher

[914Sixer]

Just ploy to get you into the service department. They are smiling the whole time.

[DickSteinkamp]

I think the problem is that a "matching numbers" Porsche has become worth MUCH more money than one with a replacement engine. Because of that, restamping in a manor that is not detectable has become big business.

I guess I applaud Porsche for finding a way to have owners enjoy the cars for what they are and not to succumb to the Corvette mentality.

[914werke]

restamping in a manor that is not detectable has become big business.

Can you elaborate?

[DickSteinkamp]

restamping in a manor that is not detectable has become big business.

Can you elaborate?

I have no idea how they do it. "Not detectable" is an overstatement. It probably is detectable by the right people with the right tools. It's just that having the original motor has added so much value that the dishonest folks will figure something out that will fool at least some of the people.

[914Sixer]

Adding a 2008 COA for reference purposes.

[Chi-town]

Restamping blocks has become common practice since "numbers matching" has become big business. I know of a stamp supplier who can reproduce almost any font from just a clear picture.

My bet is at least half of the numbers matching classic cars on the market are restamps

[dax1969]

I decided to sell one of my 914s

what are you selling ? Don't care about the certificate...prefer to have a reliable PPI report (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You can pm me

greetings
Dax

[dcheek]

Porsche's mentality on this reminds me of the practice of long-established rock bands hawking cheesy t-shirts at intermission. They've made their millions, but still want to milk their faithful for a few more bucks. I don't need a t-shirt to prove I went to a concert and I don't need a COA or whatever their calling it now to prove I own the authentic 914 that's sitting in my garage. Gee, is there a possibility that it was cranked out in a Chinese sweatshop like a fake Rolex- I think not. Could it be a kit car- I don't think anybody is making kits of the most derided model in Porsche history. If Porsche was loyal to its fans and enthusiasts, they would provide to them every scrap of production and delivery info they could garnish in a single document at a reasonable cost. And as far as them providing a hands-on inspection by one of their so-called "classic experts", give me a break. I'll bet that "expert" is some millennial they sent to a one-week seminar to teach him that his company did actually produce cars before the Cayenne.

Ansbacher

This and their long and overpriced options list has made them the most profitable car manufacturer in the world. The "Classic" program is under the guise of being faithful to the older model Porsche enthusiast, but, make no mistake, they are in it to further expand their bottom line.

Dave

[73-914]

Just remember , they are also "Frame off restorations" . Even if the car is a unibody

LOL

[Racer]

It does appear that the "classic technical certificate" report, for $500, does go to the effort of indicating if the engine and trans are original to your car. But, you have to take it to one of the 12 or so certified locations in the US.

[Maltese Falcon]

Porsche's mentality on this reminds me of the practice of long-established rock bands hawking cheesy t-shirts at intermission. They've made their millions, but still want to milk their faithful for a few more bucks. I don't need a t-shirt to prove I went to a concert and I don't need a COA or whatever their calling it now to prove I own the authentic 914 that's sitting in my garage. Gee, is there a possibility that it was cranked out in a Chinese sweatshop like a fake Rolex- I think not. Could it be a kit car- I don't think anybody is making kits of the most derided model in Porsche history. If Porsche was loyal to its fans and enthusiasts, they would provide to them every scrap of production and delivery info they could garnish in a single document at a reasonable cost. And as far as them providing a hands-on inspection by one of their so-called "classic experts", give me a break. I'll bet that "expert" is some millennial they sent to a one-week seminar to teach him that his company did actually produce cars before the Cayenne.

Ansbacher

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[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

The 500 dollar inspection DOES verify original matching numbers, but the people who are doing it at the Porsche Classic centers were not even a gleam in their Dad's eye when most of these cars were made. Hence there are unknowledgeable people examining your car who know virtually nothing about it.

Number re stamp to fake a numbers matching car is a down and dirty low life way to make a profit and those who do it should be banished from the Porsche community (or any community for that matter.

THAT is why Porsche had to clamp down: To try to eliminate counterfeiters, they made it bad for everyone with true intent. (just like the terrorists making all of us have to now go through long lines at the airport.

I have had several long discussions with Porsche here in Atlanta about allowing this type of information out to legitimate entities, and they still refused. Their new certificate of authenticity is virtually worthless and expensive for what you get and gives us all the further impression that Porsche could care less about the old cars

It does appear that the "classic technical certificate" report, for $500, does go to the effort of indicating if the engine and trans are original to your car. But, you have to take it to one of the 12 or so certified locations in the US.

[Racer]

The 500 dollar inspection DOES verify original matching numbers, but the people who are doing it at the Porsche Classic centers were not even a gleam in their Dad's eye when most of these cars were made. Hence there are unknowledgeable people examining your car who know virtually nothing about it.

It does appear that the "classic technical certificate" report, for $500, does go to the effort of indicating if the engine and trans are original to your car. But, you have to take it to one of the 12 or so certified locations in the US.

Well, knowledge can be learned. If they are doing no more than what the old COA people did, then what does it matter if they are 25 or 40 or 70 years old? The data doesn't change. Porsche has the data, they are merely restricting access. They will know if your 2.0 had the right /original case. Or if you /6 is correct.

Then again, this is why the Ferrari owner complains that his "1 of 11" car is actually # 36 of 11 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) lolz.