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Vinyl Wrapping a 914 with GT Flares, Deck lids and doors finished. |
poorsche914 |
Sep 10 2020, 05:25 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Been planning on wrapping my 914 with printed vinyl for several months. Had a mockup of the design finished this past winter. Finally built the full-size graphics and began printing the vinyl today. I have experience wrapping flat surfaces such as walls and enclosed trailers so the doors and deck lids on the 914 should be a breeze.
However... the flares are going to be a challenge. I have decided to do a color layer first and then add the graphic elements separately (the doors and deck lids have base layer and graphics printed as one). Any tips on how to best apply the wrap to the flares without ending up with a wrinkly mess would be greatly appreciated. steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
mb911 |
Sep 10 2020, 05:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,213 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Sorry no help but always interested on wrapping as Might be something I want to do on my car at some point
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mepstein |
Sep 10 2020, 05:51 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Watch youtube's of "the wrap institute" and buy the best quality vinyl.
Or trade some artwork services to someone who's already good at it. |
poorsche914 |
Sep 10 2020, 06:17 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Watch youtube's of "the wrap institute" and buy the best quality vinyl. Or trade some artwork services to someone who's already good at it. I'm using 3M Controltac IJ180V3 vinyl. I've watched tons of YouTube videos but have found nothing showing similar curves as GT flares. Tension is going in all directions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Guess I will need to practice a few times and try different techniques such as pre-stretching and heating before applying. Not sure how that will work with such a large piece of vinyl, however. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
mepstein |
Sep 10 2020, 06:27 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The video I watched said not to heat. You are building in tension that eventually wants to go back to the original relaxed state. I think doing some practice pieces is a good idea.
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burton73 |
Sep 10 2020, 09:20 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,659 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
The video I watched said not to heat. You are building in tension that eventually wants to go back to the original relaxed state. I think doing some practice pieces is a good idea. I remember looking at a UTube on wrapping technique. This guy was very good with a cold stretch tech Bob B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8f8pi06Hs |
poorsche914 |
Sep 10 2020, 09:36 PM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
I remember looking at a UTube on wrapping technique. This guy was very good with a cold stretch tech Bob B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8f8pi06Hs Thanks for that, Bob. I've actually watched that video a couple times and several other videos by that guy. He is very good! He has a video where he wraps a truck in gold chrome. The fenders have similar complex curves but, unfortunately, the video is a time lapse so can't really see the technique (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I'll end up doing a trial or two with plain vinyl to get a feel for how the vinyl lays before trying it with printed vinyl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
KELTY360 |
Sep 10 2020, 10:26 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I remember looking at a UTube on wrapping technique. This guy was very good with a cold stretch tech Bob B https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8f8pi06Hs Thanks for that, Bob. I've actually watched that video a couple times and several other videos by that guy. He is very good! He has a video where he wraps a truck in gold chrome. The fenders have similar complex curves but, unfortunately, the video is a time lapse so can't really see the technique (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I'll end up doing a trial or two with plain vinyl to get a feel for how the vinyl lays before trying it with printed vinyl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Why not try contacting the guy that did the video and ask for specific advise to your application? Good luck with the project, looking forward to seeing the graphics. |
poorsche914 |
Sep 11 2020, 07:19 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Why not try contacting the guy that did the video and ask for specific advise to your application? Good luck with the project, looking forward to seeing the graphics. That is actually worth a shot. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
ri914 |
Sep 11 2020, 07:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
the problem is going to be how many different ways the material stretch will be in force compared to its resting state.
I watched a 427 cobra get wrapped and the artist told me that the shorter the transition in a sharp curve the worse it can be. The rear gt flares will be quite hard to do especially if you are going to try and have no visible seams. I am sure even a seasoned wrapper would pause or have a few throw aways on a 914 wb. I would buy a bunch of test material (making sure its the same brand/version but maybe a cheaper color. draw straight lines on the material so you can see what the material needs to do in order to look good. I spent a week applying wrap to my Lamborghini and that car is a lot easier due to the angles and panel breaks. we disassembled the car and wrapped each piece. Another thing to remember is the gt flares are stamped/pressed i believe so think about the stretching that is going on to make one. in theory the wrap will follow that same distortion to some degree. I would imagine heat would need to be done in some areas. |
poorsche914 |
Sep 11 2020, 08:40 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Great info... thanks.
After watching a few more videos, I have a better idea of what procedures to use and am going to give it a try with a test piece. If that turns out horribly, then I will rethink the two panels that need the full coverage. The wrap will be temporary and is an exercise in creativity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
PanelBilly |
Sep 11 2020, 08:41 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,844 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Before all this covid shit I was working on a tech session for this year’s Turnout that would allow a hands on wrap class. 3M has a tech advisor in our area who could be the instructor and at least give everyone a chance to see if they had the desire to peruse wrapping their own car. When this is all over I’m putting it back on my list
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mepstein |
Sep 11 2020, 09:21 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Great info... thanks. After watching a few more videos, I have a better idea of what procedures to use and am going to give it a try with a test piece. If that turns out horribly, then I will rethink the two panels that need the full coverage. The wrap will be temporary and is an exercise in creativity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Not going to make the first time you try wrapping a car easy on yourself. Huh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
poorsche914 |
Sep 11 2020, 09:37 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
Not going to make the first time you try wrapping a car easy on yourself. Huh. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Well... gotta start somewhere (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
ValcoOscar |
Sep 11 2020, 09:42 AM
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ri914 |
Sep 11 2020, 10:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 13-August 20 From: rhode island Member No.: 24,593 Region Association: North East States |
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poorsche914 |
Sep 11 2020, 10:18 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
A novice wrapped this a few years back...no wrinkles or seams. Oscar Thanks for that, Oscar. Shows it can be done, at least. Are the graphics printed or added to the base color vinyl? steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
ValcoOscar |
Sep 11 2020, 11:15 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,469 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
A novice wrapped this a few years back...no wrinkles or seams. Oscar Thanks for that, Oscar. Shows it can be done, at least. Are the graphics printed or added to the base color vinyl? steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) I added graphics later. Surely you can do this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Oscar |
Chris914n6 |
Sep 11 2020, 11:29 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,407 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You would be better off doing the graphics as separate pieces. The solid colors stretch quite well, the printable stuff less so. Plus the distortion will be high. The trunk lids will be fine.
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Craigers17 |
Sep 11 2020, 11:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 796 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
@ValcoOscar That looks awesome! Great color. I wonder if you could tell us what finish the wrap was applied over? In other words, was it a nice, glossy paint, or were parts fiberglass, or was it finished in sealed primer? Just curious as to what types of finish these wraps will adhere to? |
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