Outer suspension console, Does anyone have a good console i can buy |
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Outer suspension console, Does anyone have a good console i can buy |
Wadesbrain |
Aug 31 2022, 03:12 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
Hey guys I'm looking for a donor for my right side outer suspension console. I know they are rare but if anyone has an idea where to get one or know of a donor car that has one I would appreciate it.
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brant |
Aug 31 2022, 03:28 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,824 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Restoration Design
there are sometimes a used one.... but this is the same side that all of us rip out.. (mine has ripped out 2 times now) so new is the most likely brant |
nathanxnathan |
Aug 31 2022, 03:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 16-February 18 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 21,899 Region Association: Southern California |
I don't think RD has either outer suspension console. I think this is what op is looking for.
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Wadesbrain |
Aug 31 2022, 03:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 31 2022, 04:26 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,598 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Restoration Design there are sometimes a used one.... but this is the same side that all of us rip out.. (mine has ripped out 2 times now) so new is the most likely brant Does RD even make an outer one? I can't find it on their site. No. You were on the right track trying to find donor sheet metal Post a WTB ad in the for sale forum |
friethmiller |
Aug 31 2022, 04:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 10-February 19 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 22,863 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Had the same issue. You can either repair it or find a donor. Did I see somewhere that you could buy/replace the 3 bolt 'canisters' in the outer? That might make the repair a bit easier. Post a picture of what you got.
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 31 2022, 04:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,598 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
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Superhawk996 |
Aug 31 2022, 04:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,598 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Had the same issue. You can either repair it or find a donor. Did I see somewhere that you could buy/replace the 3 bolt 'canisters' in the outer? That might make the repair a bit easier. Post a picture of what you got. Yes, Tangerine Racing sells the threaded ‘canisters’, bobbins, inserts, sleeves, whatever you want to call them. http://www.tangerineracing.com/chassisrepair.htm |
Wadesbrain |
Aug 31 2022, 05:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
Had the same issue. You can either repair it or find a donor. Did I see somewhere that you could buy/replace the 3 bolt 'canisters' in the outer? That might make the repair a bit easier. Post a picture of what you got. Yes, Tangerine Racing sells the threaded ‘canisters’, bobbins, inserts, sleeves, whatever you want to call them. http://www.tangerineracing.com/chassisrepair.htm It is hard to get a good picture right now because I haven't removed the suspension yet. Im going to cut the quarter off to get in there for all the other metal that needs to get cut out. Ill post pics when I get there. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Wadesbrain |
Aug 31 2022, 05:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
So the story goes like this. I bought a 73 when I was 21. I didn't know what I was getting into and didn't have the tools, talent, space or money to do what it needed to be saved. I sadly let it go to a local garage and watched them rip it in half to pull the engine. Now 30 years later I have all the requirements as well as a lack of knowing when to quit. I got this 70 rust bucket that surprisingly isn't folding in two but has major hell hole issues. Im not going to let it beat me asecond time. I must admit though this outer console does have me worried. Im planning on blasting it and won't fully know how bad it is until it is clean.
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930cabman |
Aug 31 2022, 05:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,779 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
They are repairable, it will take time and some fancy footwork.
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friethmiller |
Aug 31 2022, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 10-February 19 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 22,863 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I'd just hold off till you get in there and check it all out. Mine were really bad but both were repairable. I soaked them in a bucket of rust remover. That really did the trick for the insides. Any holes were simply repaired with new metal. The most important thing to remember is the piece HAS to go back in the exact position not just left-to-right on the panel but also vertically, on the panel. I would recommend creating a jig the bolts into the outer's suspension "canisters". That way you know for sure, 100%, that it's going back on in the exact same position.
Passenger side (with holes that were repaired): Drivers side: |
Wadesbrain |
Sep 1 2022, 03:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
I made some progress today. Removed front and rear suspension. Im not discouraged like I was yesterday. The inner console definitely will be replaced. I think I can get away with welding g the outer in place. Overall it seems pretty solid. There is a nickel size hole that doesn't go all the way through and is solid surrounding it. I think I can fill it all in and grind it smooth. Here is a picture of what I'm looking at. The bug gaping hole will be partially replaced by the new inner console and the rest I will cut back and weld in a plate. Thoughts??
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sholman5 |
Sep 1 2022, 03:46 PM
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Kraut burner Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 11-September 16 From: Ormond beach, Fl. Member No.: 20,391 Region Association: South East States |
Try @bdstone914 I bought a pair from him.
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friethmiller |
Sep 1 2022, 04:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 10-February 19 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 22,863 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hmmm. I'd cut/pull/peel that gusset off. That's the only way to see what's really going on between the inner and outer console. You can buy a new gusset kit for cheap - $35 - https://914rubber.com/search/?q=suspension%20gusset
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Wadesbrain |
Sep 1 2022, 04:23 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
Hmmm. I'd cut/pull/peel that gusset off. That's the only way to see what's really going on between the inner and outer console. You can buy a new gusset kit for cheap - $35 - https://914rubber.com/search/?q=suspension%20gusset Wow. I didn't even know that was available. Ordered and will do it. Thanks! Wade |
worn |
Sep 1 2022, 04:25 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,373 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I made some progress today. Removed front and rear suspension. Im not discouraged like I was yesterday. The inner console definitely will be replaced. I think I can get away with welding g the outer in place. Overall it seems pretty solid. There is a nickel size hole that doesn't go all the way through and is solid surrounding it. I think I can fill it all in and grind it smooth. Here is a picture of what I'm looking at. The bug gaping hole will be partially replaced by the new inner console and the rest I will cut back and weld in a plate. Thoughts?? Exactly where mine rusted away. |
914werke |
Sep 1 2022, 05:23 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,029 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Are you doing the inner as well?
I have one (or both depending) Attached thumbnail(s) |
bdstone914 |
Sep 1 2022, 07:55 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,735 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
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Wadesbrain |
Sep 5 2022, 11:09 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 29-April 19 From: Mount Bethel, Pa Member No.: 23,073 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks guy for the responses. Ill let you know more when I get the old gussets off. Do you know if the lower part and the shims are available? Mine are fairly solid but pitted. I'd rather replace them if I can.
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