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Steering wheel relocate, Move steering wheel |
mwizard1 |
Sep 12 2024, 01:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 25-May 24 From: N San Diego Co Member No.: 28,148 Region Association: None |
Does anyone know of kit to center the steering wheel on the seat?
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mepstein |
Sep 12 2024, 05:24 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,702 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There is no kit to do that. Might as well accept that the car is a bit quirky compared to modern cars and enjoy the difference.
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sixnotfour |
Sep 12 2024, 05:30 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,704 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There is no kit to do that. Might as well accept that the car is a bit quirky compared to modern cars and enjoy the difference. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
JmuRiz |
Sep 12 2024, 05:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
To be honest, until I saw an over-head photo, I drove for years not realizing it wasn’t. And yes, it’s a thing with all sports cars earlier than the 80’s that they have oddball quirks (nutty footwells, crooked steering wheels up/down/left/right, bad seats, etc.)
The easiest option would be canting the seat-rails a smidge…and that’s not easy either. |
rjames |
Sep 12 2024, 06:11 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 4,171 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I first realized the off-centered steering wheel when I put a new driver's side floor pan in. I thought I had made a mistake on where I welded the seat brackets!
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mepstein |
Sep 12 2024, 06:39 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,702 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I never realized it until someone on this site mentioned it. My 914 was my first car so even now at 58, when I slide into one, it all feels normal. Even reaching for the wiper knob on the dash (early car).
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worn |
Sep 12 2024, 06:44 PM
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Winner of the Utah Twisted Joint Award Group: Members Posts: 3,383 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
To be honest, until I saw an over-head photo, I drove for years not realizing it wasn’t. And yes, it’s a thing with all sports cars earlier than the 80’s that they have oddball quirks (nutty footwells, crooked steering wheels up/down/left/right, bad seats, etc.) The easiest option would be canting the seat-rails a smidge…and that’s not easy either. One of my favorite quirks is the way that British sports cars often had a narrow, off angle footwell such that the drivers feet were slowly roasted to medium well done next to the transmission tunnel. That is one of the reasons you can buy fireproof ballerina driver’s shoes at outrageous prices. |
mwizard1 |
Sep 13 2024, 09:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 25-May 24 From: N San Diego Co Member No.: 28,148 Region Association: None |
To be honest, until I saw an over-head photo, I drove for years not realizing it wasn’t. And yes, it’s a thing with all sports cars earlier than the 80’s that they have oddball quirks (nutty footwells, crooked steering wheels up/down/left/right, bad seats, etc.) The easiest option would be canting the seat-rails a smidge…and that’s not easy either. One of my favorite quirks is the way that British sports cars often had a narrow, off angle footwell such that the drivers feet were slowly roasted to medium well done next to the transmission tunnel. That is one of the reasons you can buy fireproof ballerina driver’s shoes at outrageous prices. I have the driver shoes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I use them in my race car. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 13 2024, 09:27 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,120 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
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Chris914n6 |
Sep 13 2024, 10:11 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,431 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Problem is then the pedals get really skewed.
It bothered me too, so I figured out a way and never actually did it. All I've done so far is add a spacer to the rear bolts and tilt the wheel up about 1/2". Now I can better see gauges. Fixing the pedal spacing is higher on my list. |
930cabman |
Sep 13 2024, 11:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,834 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Does anyone know of kit to center the steering wheel on the seat? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Funny, I never noticed. Now it will drive me crazy knowing I am more crooked than I thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
PanelBilly |
Sep 13 2024, 12:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,866 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My arms are offset to match the car after all these years
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GregAmy |
Sep 13 2024, 12:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,422 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
I think you just ruined for me...I never even noticed it...until today...
Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) |
930cabman |
Sep 13 2024, 01:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,834 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
My arms are offset to match the car after all these years +1 You guys are great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
wonkipop |
Sep 14 2024, 01:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,670 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
My arms are offset to match the car after all these years +1 You guys are great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) i have had to go through it twice. offset arms once when it was left hand drive. and.........then right hand drive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) it actually blew my mind a bit way back in 1992 when i was converting the car to discover the steering wheel was angled. i had never actually noticed. and its all so perfect left hand drive ----why would you want to change it. its so perfectly ergonomic in relation to the pedals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) try replicating that ergonomic perfection in a right hand drive conversion and you will discover the true meaning of mental torment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) forget the steering wheel. the clutch pedal will drive you to distraction getting it right. even the factory could not reproduce the perfection of the left hand drive 911s in the right hand drive models. which may explain why there was never a right hand drive 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Superhawk996 |
Sep 14 2024, 11:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,663 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
even the factory could not reproduce the perfection of the left hand drive 911s in the right hand drive models. which may explain why there was never a right hand drive 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Let’s face it, the rest of the world is just waiting for the 75 or so RHD countries to figure out they have been doing it wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) There are so many cars out there with offset steering wheels and pedals it’s ridiculous, most people just don’t notice. As Dr914 stated, the 914 isn’t even among the worst. |
gereed75 |
Sep 14 2024, 12:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,323 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
From memory ( not recent experience) the early 911 pedals are pretty far right
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wonkipop |
Sep 14 2024, 08:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,670 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
even the factory could not reproduce the perfection of the left hand drive 911s in the right hand drive models. which may explain why there was never a right hand drive 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Let’s face it, the rest of the world is just waiting for the 75 or so RHD countries to figure out they have been doing it wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) There are so many cars out there with offset steering wheels and pedals it’s ridiculous, most people just don’t notice. As Dr914 stated, the 914 isn’t even among the worst. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you won't find me disagreeing with the idea the whole world should be left hand drive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i've experienced both and in a stick shift car it sure makes sense. much more natural feel to clutch and stick operation across the body rather than down one side of the body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) the reason for right hand drive has always been clear to me. its pretty much a legacy of the british empire - apart from two things. 1) japan. not entirely clear to me why its right hand drive. i think it might have something to do with the early car industry in japan being that it built british designed cars under license but not positive thats the reason. this was between the wars i think 2) and canada - not being right hand drive given its status as a commonwealth nation and former dominion of the empire. i guess the reason must be the adjacency of the USA right next door where basically the entire car industry was. i've been told that hong kong still remains right hand drive despite having been absorbed into china. that must be fun if you drive between hk and bejing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) chinese drivers are bad enough (based on real life experience with chinese tourists on the roads here) without them getting confused about which side of the road they should be on (which they also do here with sometimes deadly consequences). ------- the only other car i have noticed a slightly angular steering wheel (ie pointed slightly towards centre of car) is a merc i once drove. i think it was an 80s merc. have not really noticed it on anything else. i don't think my type 3 squareback had an off axis steering wheel and neither did my mothers beetle. just the pedals offset to centre but because the cars were so narrow you kind of don't get too put off by it. its more pronounced in the 914. |
mlindner |
Sep 15 2024, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,603 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
And moving the wheel that would put more angle in the universal joints is not a good idea. Best, Mark
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bkrantz |
Sep 15 2024, 08:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,206 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Could be worse. Could be a vintage Italian car, with a horizontal steering wheel like a bus.
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