I had the "Beater 914" towed again, AAA tow driver's with attitudes |
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I had the "Beater 914" towed again, AAA tow driver's with attitudes |
Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 08:23 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
This guy wanted to haul my car up onto the flatbed using the axles and I told him "No you're not". He got pissed off and threatened to leave and I could call somebody else. "You trying to tell me how to do my job?" "No, I'm trying to tell you how I don't want my car loaded." I ended up telling him that whatever it took to get it done the way I wanted it done would have to do whether that menat another driver or not. I think he knew how that would have turned out.
Am I out of line telling them how I want them to handle my car? 'Nother question: I don't think the drive shafts and CV joints were intended for that sort of lateral stress. Even if they can handle it, I don't want to have to end up fixing them too in the event that they bent or worse. What do you guys think? |
GWN7 |
Oct 2 2005, 08:27 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Your car, your call......next time, tell him if he wants to pay for the damage he will cause to go ahead. The hook in the front is plenty strong to load the car. "Smokey's" been loaded with that hook 5 times now.
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sj914 |
Oct 2 2005, 08:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 20-August 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,053 |
I don't think you were out of line for telling him what you don't want.
Sounds like the guy had a chip on his shoulder. Most of the time when I had to call a tow truck for my car they were prettty good about listening to how I wanted the car lifted. A couple of times they even let me slim jim my own car, when they couldn't get it open. |
effutuo101 |
Oct 2 2005, 08:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
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Sorry your car had to be towed again. But, since you know your car and they don't, i think it is ok for you to tell him how a classic should be tied down. It isn't a rice burner, I also agree that the CV's and shafts were not built to handle that type of load. I would have them checked to see if he bent them. Untold damage if he did. I would call the company and ask them if they have insurance to take car of employee induced damage. Good luck |
Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 08:50 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
He didn't bend them; he never got the chance. He did it my way. |
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Dead Air |
Oct 2 2005, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 2,042 |
I sold Saturns for a while when they first came out. A few of the cars were coming back to several dealers with mysterious vibrations in the front ends. Ends up the delivery drivers were using the front driveshafts to cinch down the cars on the auto carriers. new drive shafts repaired the problem. A very expensive fix though.
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Brando |
Oct 2 2005, 08:57 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
You were certaintly not out of line.
They do it right, or have someone else. |
markb |
Oct 2 2005, 08:58 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Nicely done, Gint. We had something similar happen when we had the SC towed. We requested a flatbed, but they sent a cradlesnatcher. I told the driver we needed a flatbed. He replied he could tow it with no problem I told him, fine, but any damage was coming out of his pocket. He took off & a few minutes later a flatbed pulled up. That driver had an attitude also, so I told him the next time I needed a towtruck, I would instruct AAA to use another provider, no matter how far they had to come to pick up the car. He mellowed right out & by the end of it all was a decent guy. He began to understand how protective I am about my Porsches.
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dbledsoe |
Oct 2 2005, 09:00 PM
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Mutineer Group: Members Posts: 300 Joined: 13-May 03 From: Boise, ID. Member No.: 687 |
Mike,
You did the right thing. I'm guessing that if he wanted to wrap around the drive shafts he was maybe trying to pull the car from the rear onto the bed. I would think that not only is it hard on the CV and drive shafts, it could possibly pull the tranny ears out of their 12mm mounting bolts. Looking at the 914 trans I don't think they were designed to take any kind of pull from the rear or a heavy rear impact without coming apart at the rear mount 12mm bolts. It would make quite a mess of your engine and transaxle (not to mention damage to your front mounts) if the tranny ears came free of the 12mm bolts and dropped to the ground. Don |
porschecb |
Oct 2 2005, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,092 Joined: 13-August 04 From: Las Vegas NV Member No.: 2,529 Region Association: None |
What was your way? Just thinking. My car is way low. and my rear tow hook is bent a little but it still works I think.
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rick 918-S |
Oct 2 2005, 09:17 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,832 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I'd have sent him packing, called AAA and reported him, Then had another driver sent. They put tow eyes on these cars for a reason. Even if the (NLA CV's) and axles didn't fail as a result of the un-natural side load, The shafts are connected to the motor and transaxle which are rubber mounted. These mounts are designed for up and down stress and function as a vibration dampner, not to drag the entire chassis up on the roll back. What a dork! I feel sorry for a guy that can't even figure out how to tow a car. What does life's journey have instore for a Bubba boy like that... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
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Allan |
Oct 2 2005, 09:23 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
So what exactly is the correct way to flatbed a 914?
I've only been towed once and they used the a arms and pulled it up front first... |
Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 09:26 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My way is to do it from the front with the eye or a-arms and then strap down using the front a-arms and the lower shock mounts in the rear. That's how I strap them down when hauling them. Thanks for the feedback gang. |
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porschecb |
Oct 2 2005, 09:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,092 Joined: 13-August 04 From: Las Vegas NV Member No.: 2,529 Region Association: None |
What was your way!!!! Tow hook our what. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 09:28 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Look up two posts... |
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redshift |
Oct 2 2005, 09:37 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Ginty, just get a flatbed.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) You'd be better off not wasting the hour(s) waiting. M |
Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 09:41 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I didn't wait. I was sitting at home yackin with y'all. AAA doesn't take long. I sold my trailer after I got the /6 home because I didn't have the room to store it. |
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redshift |
Oct 2 2005, 09:44 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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Genius! So, they towed you to the grocery, then back? M |
rhodyguy |
Oct 2 2005, 09:44 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,198 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
YOU'RE the boss. your way or the highway.
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Gint |
Oct 2 2005, 09:51 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Miles, ya kill me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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