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G50 (or any tranny) flip, Turning a tranny upside down |
jc87930 |
Aug 31 2003, 10:21 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 1,093 |
Hi everyone! I have a tube frame 914 that I'm putting a 993 3.6 in and a G50 trans to go with it. I have read lots of old threads on NOT flipping the G50 for use in a 914 but was hoping for some advice.
I understand that flipping the diff is just too hard and have heard that to flip the entire trans requires cutting bell housings off etc. My question is, why can I not simply fill the old holes, build up the case a bit, and drill new holes? They only need to move 1/4". Jim |
Brad Roberts |
Sep 1 2003, 01:02 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Hey Jim.
I was "forewarned" that you where heading this way from Rennlist. Do exactly like your thinking and fill the current holes and redrill. Typically we shorten the bellhousing also... if you dont ..then end of the tranny ends up almost hanging out the back of the car (even with your Sheridan body kit). The other thing you need to do.. equalize the gear lube. Run a line from the diff area to the nosecone. If you dont .. more of the gear lube will sit in the nose cone area than in the diff area. Remind me later.. and I will show you a pic of one upside down. B |
Jeroen |
Sep 1 2003, 03:47 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Hey Jim,
Good to see you made it here. Welcome aboard... cheers, Jeroen |
jc87930 |
Sep 1 2003, 06:05 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 1,093 |
Thanks guys!
Nice to E-meet you Brad! Ok, one more little idea, since the starter shares one of the studs I thought why not leave that one alone? And it so happens that the upper right stud and the starter stud still line up! So my idea is to leave the two right hand studs as they are AND get this, it is easier to ADD two new studs to the engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) than even touch the trans! The 993 has room, I just need to build up a little area for each stud cuz the case has recesses just behind where the stud pokes through. The only issue I see is that the tranny will be a few degrees off of level. So I will just mount the engine a little bit the other way. I figure that the back and forth of a race will negate any problems. Besides, my fat ass tips the car over anyway! What do ya think! Thanks, Jim |
Bleyseng |
Sep 1 2003, 09:55 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where do you race in Victoria,BC?
Love going up there and enjoying the harbor and Chinatown.. Can't help you at all with the G50... Geoff |
MarkV |
Sep 1 2003, 10:19 PM
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Fear the Jack Stands Group: Members Posts: 1,493 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson, AZ Member No.: 154 Region Association: None |
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jc87930 |
Sep 1 2003, 11:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 1,093 |
Hey Geoff,
We autocross at a local circle track call Western Speedway, and several large parking lots in town. Thanks for the ebay link Mark, nice tranny, I would definately go there if I did not have the G50. I have made a temporary stud (needs welding around it for strength) and bolted the trans on. And am fitting in the car now. Jim |
jc87930 |
Sep 1 2003, 11:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 1,093 |
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redshift |
Sep 1 2003, 11:59 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(MarkV @ Sep 2 2003, 12:19 AM) 3:10? Holy Cow. M |
Brad Roberts |
Sep 2 2003, 12:29 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Um.. Jim.. That is a C4 tranny out of an all wheel drive car.
How do you plan to cap the end ?? B |
Bleyseng |
Sep 2 2003, 06:20 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here we go! an all wheel drive 914! should be great for AXing. Look out JP!
Geoff |
redshift |
Sep 2 2003, 06:41 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 2 2003, 02:29 AM) How do you plan to cap the end ?? B With a prop? M |
jc87930 |
Sep 2 2003, 04:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 1,093 |
Lol, a prop, good one! Maybe a PTO for a winch?
Knew that would spark some comments! No, the transfer case just unbolts. I am going to make an integrated cap/mount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Jim |
Mueller |
Sep 2 2003, 05:13 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I see an AWD 914 in future (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dave_Darling |
Sep 2 2003, 05:17 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,062 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Wow, Mike... I gotta get me some'a what you been smokin if you can see that!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
--DD |
Mueller |
Sep 2 2003, 05:56 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Dave,
how can you not invision that? A new rear housing with gears to change the direction to transmit the power forward (similar to the latest generation of AWD mid-engine Lambos) Maybe my problem is that I have never smoked anything stronger than a Kool cigerette (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Sep 3 2003, 11:52 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,062 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Yeah, straight through the middle of the crankcase! Who needs a camshaft anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
--DD |
redshift |
Sep 3 2003, 05:01 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Transverse mounting of a /6, with ahh.... two 901s... and a uhhmm... belts... lots of belts... and a chain also.. to tow the car with..
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) M -if you can mount a /12 sideways where I saw it, a /6 must fit in a 914..- |
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