2.0L exhaust on my 1.7L, which cylinder head gaskets to buy? |
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2.0L exhaust on my 1.7L, which cylinder head gaskets to buy? |
jporsche914 |
Mar 11 2006, 04:30 PM
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I am putting a 2.0L exhaust on my 1.7L 914 and i was wondering do i buy the 2.0L cylinder head gasket or the 1.7L cylinder head gasket.
Thanks, James |
bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 04:32 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
the copper ones--I think they are all the same.
get a dab of grease or something to get those damn things to stay, and heat each copper gasket REAL hot and quickly throw it in some water, that'll soften it up some (opposite effect with steel) softer copper = better seal. I had to buy some pick things to get the old ones to come out....but i think they all finally came out. b |
McMark |
Mar 11 2006, 04:38 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
All the same.
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jporsche914 |
Mar 11 2006, 04:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 149 Joined: 9-March 04 From: colorado, springs Member No.: 1,769 |
The 2.0L and 1.7L have different part numbers that why i thought they were dirrerent are you sure that they are the same?
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Aaron Cox |
Mar 11 2006, 04:40 PM
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is that necessary? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) never heard of that.... i thought they were already annealed ..... |
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bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 04:41 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
every month I have to explain myself. Everytime someone asks this, I explain it.
I heard it and I did it and its awesome. b |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 11 2006, 05:01 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,002 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The exhaust gaskets go with the heads. You have 1.7 heads, so use the 1.7 exhaust gaskets.
You can anneal the copper to soften it up, but you do not have to. It is a way to re-use old copper exhaust gaskets, supposedly. --DD |
McMark |
Mar 11 2006, 05:21 PM
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It may be awesome, but how do you know annealing helped? |
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Cap'n Krusty |
Mar 11 2006, 06:08 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Actually, the ID of the 1.7 gaskets is smaller than that of the 2 litre ones. That makes the sealing surface slightly wider, but the 2.0 pipes have thinner walls, so some of the gasket overhangs the pipe. Since the head covers this part of the gasket, it won't make any difference which one you use. That said, I'd use the 1.7 gasket. The Cap'n
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bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 06:41 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I just believe. plus it was fun to do. b |
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McMark |
Mar 11 2006, 06:46 PM
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bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 06:52 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) hey Mark, can you go visit the citroen thread (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) alfred's back! b |
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Aaron Cox |
Mar 11 2006, 06:52 PM
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that has empirical data written all over it! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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McMark |
Mar 11 2006, 06:55 PM
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I'm too slow. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) |
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Aaron Cox |
Mar 11 2006, 06:59 PM
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i got it.... |
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Gint |
Mar 11 2006, 08:29 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,086 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Do your homework on anealing copper. You'll see. It does soften the gaskets.
I have re-anealed many sets of *used* copper gaskets. They do soften up and seal better. Given my experience, I'd probably aneal new gaskets also. But I've never bought a new set. |
bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 08:33 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
yes!!
i win. wait...i thought you couldnt re-use those gaskets? damn I had to get them from teh VW guy. He has a D-jet tester I want. b |
Joe Ricard |
Mar 11 2006, 08:54 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Good Job Britt,
I use copper RTV to hold the rings in place till the stub pipes cinch down. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) When putting 2.0L SSI on make sure that the sealing surfaces are clean and straight and even with each other. not all cockeyed. You can do this with a BIG flat file. I hated wrestling 2.0L SSI's not to mention making a deal with the devil when torqueing down the NEW nuts. |
bd1308 |
Mar 11 2006, 08:59 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
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