PCA vs POC Options

[Tobra]

Two different clubs, can anyone share any experiences, advantages or disadvantages to one or the the other. Which has better DE courses and track days, that sort of thing

[DanT]

POC tends to stay in Socal more. the offer a little of everything but focus more on door handle to door handle racing.

PCA in Norcal....Zone 7. AXs, almost one per weekend somewhere in the zone.
DEs...check the Zone website. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 days available this year with various regions.
TTs by GGR 5 per year.

Depends on what you are looking for. There is plenty available to you in PCA Zone 7 and stay in norcal (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

I have run with POC in the past...nice folks good events, they just don't come north to run very often.

[Scott Carlberg]

POC website

Golden Gate Region of the PCA



As Dan said, the POC is ALL about Track Events, they really don't have
"social-only" events.

[SandyI]

The POC is a very race-oriented club. Our DE events put you on the Streets of Willow track in the Short Track Series. And a few years later, you can find yourself at the Sebring 12-hour as some club members ran this year. There are a couple social-only events thrown each year, but no, the club definitely isn't about wash, wax, park and chat get togethers. There are no concours events with white gloves. These are men and women with very heavy right feet that like to go fast on the track. The Time Trial and Cup Race divisions race all over California and in Las Vegas once a year. It's a helluva good time. Check us out some time.

Those of us in the Short Track series have our priorities -- the beer's always cold after the fifth run session. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)

[Tobra]

Good info and links. I don't really want to cut my car up and put a cage in there, and obviously it needs some going through before taking it out on a track. I was sort of leaning toward PCA before, sounds like it might be better for me locationwise. I like the associate member thing too. Thanks guys

[Howard]

Each PCA chapter tends to be different. The local one here is mostly social, I think they do one A/X per year.

[drewvw]

anyone in the NE have PCA expierience? There is a meet and greet in Boston on April 9th. A couple of my buddies and I were wondering what the scene is like out here...

[anthony]

Why is it an either/or decision? IMO, for $40 a year the PCA membership is chump change. You can't beat the GGR 2-day autocross school. You get the equivalent of a $1000 driving school for $100 plus your $40/year membership.

[Allan]

Is the POC worldwide?

[Howard]

QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 23 2006, 09:33 AM)

Is the POC worldwide?

Only if you consider SoCal the whole world (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[Allan]

So no Porsche clubs in Europe?

[Mueller]

QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 23 2006, 10:42 AM)

So no Porsche clubs in Europe?

what would make you think that??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

from what I understand, PCA was 1st...a bunch of racers down in SoCal got bent about how PCA club racing was run and decided to form POC

and yes, there are Porsche Clubs in other countries...they are just not named PCA or POC

[Mueller]

proof of Porsche clubs in Europe (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1137204984.jpg)

I took that picture a few years ago when Sherryl and I went to France (and Germany and England) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif)

[Mike D.]

QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 23 2006, 09:42 AM)

So no Porsche clubs in Europe?

I think this is what Headrage is looking for:

Classic Car Demonstration at F1 Drive's Parade
 
Famous for his passion for cars, CEO of Gantek Teknoloji Ahmet S¸efik Öngün drove, Toyota pilot Ralph Schumacher, the smaller of the two brothers, in a 1957 model Corvette car during Formula 1 Grand Prix.
Founder of the Porsche Club in Istanbul, Ahmet S¸efik Öngün had invited all Porsche clubs in the world to our country for the F1 event. 150 members of the Porsche Club arriving from all over the world have been the guests of the Porsche Club in Istanbul for 3 days. During the Formula 1 event planned for the next year Öngün disclosed plans to welcome 1000 members of the Porsche Club in Turkey under the Porsche Club initiative.


BTW: POC very competative, you have to watch out what you do to your car or you'll be classed with a guy who brings his car to the track in an 18 wheeler and has a small staff to run diagnostics before the race.

[Allan]

Found it.

Gonna take me awhile to translate it.

Porsche Club Istanbul

[Scott Carlberg]

QUOTE (Tobra @ Mar 23 2006, 07:59 AM)

Good info and links.  I don't really want to cut my car up and put a cage in there, and obviously it needs some going through before taking it out on a track.  I was sort of leaning toward PCA before, sounds like it might be better for me locationwise.  I like the associate member thing too.  Thanks guys

Make sure to check them BOTH out!

I thought the POC came up to Thunderhill every year, but I don't see a date for THill on their 2006 schedule.

Check them out when they come "up north" though.


August 25-27: Laguna Seca Raceway - "Make A Wish" Charity Event - Time Trial #5 - Cup Races #10 & 11

October 28-29: Infineon Raceway with PRC - Cup Race #14

[SoCal Driver]

PCA here is very social SBR, Santa Barbara Region. We have 2 monthly breakfast GTG and other functions thruout the month. SFR, San Fernando Valley region I'm not to sure about, what Howard would probably be a member of. But both are Zone 8. I'm 26, and my father joined SBR ~87-95 and then became active again ~98 to present and i've always been there at events with him since i was about 9. We did distro for news letters to the SBR from the early 90s to just a year and a half or so ago. Got to see the region grow from 250+ members in the early 90s to well over 600, almost 700 when we stopped. From my understanding its grown even more since then.

[Cap'n Krusty]

QUOTE (Howard @ Mar 23 2006, 09:39 AM)

QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 23 2006, 09:33 AM) Is the POC worldwide? Only if you consider SoCal the whole world (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Well, it is ...................... The Cap'n

[Cap'n Krusty]

QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 23 2006, 10:02 AM)

QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 23 2006, 10:42 AM) So no Porsche clubs in Europe? what would make you think that??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) from what I understand, PCA was 1st...a bunch of racers down in SoCal got bent about how PCA club racing was run and decided to form POC and yes, there are Porsche Clubs in other countries...they are just not named PCA or POC

"Club racing"? PCA Club racing appeared in the last decade, POC appeared in the late 50s-early 60s. True, they went off in their own direction, but there were a TON of dual members, and everyone ran events put on by both clubs. PCA SBR was originally gonna be a POC group, but got sidetracked, as I recall. In the early-mid 60s, you could run 4 autocrosses nearly every weekend in the LA area, and there were time trials every month. We ran Willow, Riverside, the LAPD training center, Ontario Motor Speedway, and the old bomber base at Holtville, as well as parking lots all over the place. The Cap'n

[pek771]

No POC in the East. PCA DE's are the cheapest events, fee wise. NASA and M-Club are expensive as hell.

NASA won't even return my emails. I am truly invisible. They cashed my membership check, however.
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