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| Brando |
 Jul 19 2007, 05:37 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!!  Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California  |
After the Autocross this past saturday I was merging onto the 91 West and hit a friggin deep pothole on the passenger's side. What happened? I guess it shook violently enough to bust two bolts fron my front swaybar mount on the body. Holy crap! That would explain the thunk I hear every time I hit a bump.
 This was after dropping the front end about ½" and moving the droplinks inward about 1½" inward on stiffness. The car handled great until this happened! |
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| Brando |
Jul 19 2007, 05:41 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
And... get this... A busted engine mount could lead to some serious issues. Driving home today I had an epiphany as 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th were somehow missing from my shift pattern. You should not track your car at all with a busted engine mount. I'm running the solid trans mounts in the rear, got a pair of 911 engine mounts to replace them with which I'll be doing later this evening. Observe:
 It seems even my little 1.8 has enough torque to bust shit loose. V8 in disguise? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) Was doing burnouts in L.A. last month and popped an engine mount. I plan on going with solid engine-to-bar mounts, then running 911 sport engine mounts from the engine bar to the body (a-la early method). That may take time, I have a pair of good stock 914 engine mounts that should go in tomorrow. |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2007, 06:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,943 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
dude, that thing is DIRTY ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
time to buy a case of break cleaner ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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| LowGT |
Jul 19 2007, 06:10 PM
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1.8 and Proud! Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 4,904 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 19 2007, 07:05 PM)  dude, that thing is DIRTY ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) time to buy a case of break cleaner ... The dirt may be the only thing holding the drivetrain in right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| degreeoff |
Jul 19 2007, 06:12 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 19 2007, 04:05 PM) dude, that thing is DIRTY ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) time to buy a case of break cleaner ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy I would be more inclined to say "well used"...but who the fuck cares?..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 19 2007, 06:22 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The tranny mount isn't "busted", it just came apart. I'd sure take a look at the front mounts, 'cause it looks like the motor shifted forward some. The Cap'n
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| skline |
Jul 19 2007, 06:24 PM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
I agree the motor just shifted due to your front mounts. As for the sway bar, pick up an Engman kit and that should take care of that problem. I think I have a front engine mount brand new for your car, you were going to get it last time you were here.
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2007, 06:48 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,943 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 19 2007, 04:22 PM) 'cause it looks like the motor shifted forward some. The Cap'n to my untrained eye, it sure looks like the motor & tranny moved backwards, not forward ... but what do i know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy |
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| Brando |
Jul 19 2007, 06:55 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Spot on Andy. I already have the mounts for the front, they go in tomorrow.
Scott, I totally forgot you had that mount. I'll be able to put my car on a rack tomorrow and get mine knocked out. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 19 2007, 07:15 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 19 2007, 05:48 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 19 2007, 04:22 PM) 'cause it looks like the motor shifted forward some. The Cap'n to my untrained eye, it sure looks like the motor & tranny moved backwards, not forward ... but what do i know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy Silly! Forwards toward the back bumper! Don't you nerds know anything! The Cap'n |
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| Katmanken |
Jul 19 2007, 07:17 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Potholes and speedbumps and tears OH My...
Potholes and speedbumps and tears... OH MY! BE careful, might knock those sequins right off of your ruby slippers.... |
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| 914nerd |
Jul 19 2007, 07:23 PM
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Who you callin' a "Member"? Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 18-July 06 From: Los Alamos, NM Member No.: 6,461 |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 19 2007, 07:15 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 19 2007, 05:48 PM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 19 2007, 04:22 PM) 'cause it looks like the motor shifted forward some. The Cap'n to my untrained eye, it sure looks like the motor & tranny moved backwards, not forward ... but what do i know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Andy Silly! Forwards toward the back bumper! Don't you nerds know anything! The Cap'n Actually, the engine and tranny stayed where they were The car went forwards That's what you get when you try and drive a Teener (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jul 19 2007, 09:11 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
sideshifter + solid engine to bar mounts + sport outer mounts? sounds like the bar will bounce around now, and the shift rod (if you remember) passes through the bar (which WAS stationary)
12 pack of guinness says you will have shifting issues due to the shiftrod interfering with the now movable engine bar. |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 19 2007, 11:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,943 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jul 19 2007, 07:11 PM) sideshifter + solid engine to bar mounts + sport outer mounts? sounds like the bar will bounce around now, and the shift rod (if you remember) passes through the bar (which WAS stationary) 12 pack of guinness says you will have shifting issues due to the shiftrod interfering with the now movable engine bar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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| JB 914 |
Jul 19 2007, 11:51 PM
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Daddy! Finish my car NOW!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 26-September 04 From: Garden Grove, CA Member No.: 2,831 |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jul 19 2007, 08:11 PM) sideshifter + solid engine to bar mounts + sport outer mounts? sounds like the bar will bounce around now, and the shift rod (if you remember) passes through the bar (which WAS stationary) 12 pack of guinness says you will have shifting issues due to the shiftrod interfering with the now movable engine bar. Brando prefers Budweiser (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| Brando |
Jul 20 2007, 09:25 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Hey Jim, how long's your 914 been on the road? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Does anyone make a 'semi solid' stockish engine mount for 4's? |
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| John |
Jul 20 2007, 12:13 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 19 2007, 04:22 PM) The tranny mount isn't "busted", it just came apart. I'd sure take a look at the front mounts, 'cause it looks like the motor shifted forward some. The Cap'n You mean shifted back (toward the rear)? |
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| Brando |
Jul 21 2007, 06:45 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jul 19 2007, 08:11 PM) sideshifter + solid engine to bar mounts + sport outer mounts? sounds like the bar will bounce around now, and the shift rod (if you remember) passes through the bar (which WAS stationary) 12 pack of guinness says you will have shifting issues due to the shiftrod interfering with the now movable engine bar. Correct me if you've done the testing... But stock /4 engine mounts (soft rubber) are a lot squishier and plyable than 911 engine mounts. If anything it would be less flexible than stock /4 mounts. There would also be the option of going with 964 engine mounts which are hydraulically filled if I wanted the 'ultimate' comfort. As for their rigidity m unsure. But so far 911 engine mounts in my experience are stiffer than later 914 engine mounts. |
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| rhodyguy |
Jul 21 2007, 06:53 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,193 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
someone explain the benefits of solid mounts, both f&r, to me. esp running them both at the same time. they must be a real joy 500 miles into a day of driving.
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| Brando |
Jul 21 2007, 07:01 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
basically they help with shifting... They keep the engine and trans fixed in relation to the body and shift bar. Another benefit... They transfer a lot of vibration and noise to the body so they shake all your nuts and bolts loose for you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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