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post Feb 8 2008, 03:03 PM
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So I've decided to confront a few rust bubbles on my car, before painting it (the car looked great, but I never liked the wavy sides due to poor prep and no blocking).

If you can't stomach this first photo, please don't continue... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:04 PM
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That came from here...
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post Feb 8 2008, 03:13 PM
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Where? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Let me Guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) ...Sails
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post Feb 8 2008, 03:16 PM
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Crap, I can't size some of the photos down small enough easily. But you guessed it on the sail panel. I'll load what I can now, do the rest later.

This is the left rear corner, has been bothering me for 17 years now (since the car was last painted)! Note the "RUST?" marking. Perhaps I was expecting the Easter Bunny?

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:18 PM
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Other sail panel....

Two pinholes + the factory hole for the trim strip.

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:22 PM
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Two more pinholes in the right front fender, apparently the result of a small hole from rust in the cowl gutter, which allowed moisture into this area where you cannot get to otherwise. Short of taking off the fender, we are still thinking about the best plan of attack.

One is to drill holes in the wheelwell near this area, get a better look (possibly with a boroscope), try our best to neutralize the rust, then seal the cowl gutter up.

REALLY do not want to remove the fender, though I know it is the "best" way to go....

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:24 PM
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There's a wrong way to fill in the U.S. sidemarkers, which is what the last guy did.

Tacked a metal square in place, then DENTED the fender in, and Bondo'd over the area... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:25 PM
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And then there's a right way to do it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

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post Feb 8 2008, 03:28 PM
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Sorry for the sideways jpgs.... don't mean to make you dizzy.

They are right side up in the files!?!
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Last small enough photo for now...

Taking the chance to get rid of the antenna.


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post Feb 8 2008, 03:51 PM
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REALLY do not want to remove the fender, though I know it is the "best" way to go....

I don't think so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

It looks... well... like a 914. I count two paint jobs since factory. Are you sanding those off? You did start the "Should we ALWAYS go down to bare metal?" thread.

Looks like FUN! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)
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post Feb 8 2008, 04:35 PM
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When you start to get discouraged be happy your not the owner of this car.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=80655

You've started on the journey... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no turning back now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Feb 8 2008, 04:38 PM
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Paint shop will make the final decision on what to do from here. The rest of the car looks very, very good.

And, yes, I know looks can be deceiving.

The shop working on it now is a race shop at the end of the street with a good metalworker. I am listening to him carefully. My guess is the paint shop, when it gets the car, will sand down to the last fill-coat, which is pretty thick. But maybe they'll tell me they want to take it down to metal. We'll see. As it's being painted in SF, I am not crazy about down to metal...

The car was last painted in 1991. I thought that was the only time in the booth, but it looks like it was painted once before that. Besides four trouble spots, the 1991 paint has held up very, VERY well. Too bad the guy didn't block the sides... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Right now, I'm leaning towards sanding it down to the fill coat and repainting it once more.

But we'll see.

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post Feb 8 2008, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 8 2008, 02:35 PM) *

When you start to get discouraged be happy your not the owner of this car.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=80655

You've started on the journey... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) no turning back now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)



WOW! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Feb 8 2008, 04:45 PM
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I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I have been told not to use a sharpie pen on the paint or metal on the car. My painter told me that he has seen cases where the ink bleeds through the new paint..
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QUOTE(TINCAN914 @ Feb 8 2008, 02:45 PM) *

I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I have been told not to use a sharpie pen on the paint or metal on the car. My painter told me that he has seen cases where the ink bleeds through the new paint..



Okay, so that is scary...

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post Feb 8 2008, 05:46 PM
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Yes it will if you paint over it. Make sure it's sanded off thoroughly.
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post Feb 8 2008, 05:51 PM
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BTW Pete, if you didn't already know, the first three pics with the pin holes are where the factory put their 'seam sealer' underneath. After many years, the seam sealer shrank and/or cracked and the water began seeping into those areas.

Good luck on the refinishing and painting, keep us informed...

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post Feb 9 2008, 10:40 AM
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Pete,
Make sure that your shop does a thorough search for rust. I thought my '70/4 was pretty nice, but the ravages of time, salty winter roads and latent moisture ultimately caused more damage than was readily apparent.

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Dude... someone vandalized your car with a majik-marker!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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