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> Let's save another 914, and get it decent., Probably need advice from you old school 914 folk
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post Jun 24 2009, 05:53 PM
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So here is the rust on this one. It's a 75 cali car it's entire life.

Get the worst over to begin. Let us take a look at the hell hole. It was solid, and even passed teh screwdriver/hammer test....

*until* it soaked in metal ready a while... then the screwdriver test started picking out giant holes which you see here. It is still soaking, and has been on/off for days not to eat away more to see what metal is truly left. Next step is a grinder or non-hand tool of sorts to break deep into the pitting and see what truly is through.

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post Jun 24 2009, 05:57 PM
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That's nothing .... never penetrated the long. Only two small holes in the inner wheel house. Cut plates weld 'em in. Wire wheel entire area, paint with Por-15 or Rust Bullet, then cover with color of your choice.
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:11 PM
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I wish mine was as good as this...
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(veltror @ Jun 24 2009, 05:11 PM) *

I wish mine was as good as this...


No shit Dick Tracy ...............
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 24 2009, 07:14 PM) *

QUOTE(veltror @ Jun 24 2009, 05:11 PM) *

I wish mine was as good as this...


No shit Dick Tracy ...............

Seriously!
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:22 PM
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That is really in great shape compared to what we see....nice car.
Clean it up, grind off the batter tray lip and weld up those holes.

Easiest way I have found is a small handheld spot blaster...the little self contained sand blaster.
OR
Lots of funky tools and swearing to get all the way into the lower corner.

BTW, you can reach in the wheel well and weld it from the other side to make it ALOT easier to clean up and dress it on the inside.

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post Jun 24 2009, 06:23 PM
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Next up, the side opposite of the hell hole. This side is much much better, with a tiny hole in the firewall section only. Again it is still soaking and getting wirebrushed/sanded then soaking more in por-15 metal ready every day.

In fact all these spots are....

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post Jun 24 2009, 06:29 PM
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What you've got doesn't need saving it just needs a little TLC. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

This car needs saving... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif)
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post Jun 24 2009, 06:34 PM
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Here is the drivers side hack box, and the center of the long with the sill support.

I am going to cut the jack box off both sides tomorrow morning with the friendly dremel to prevent it from spreading. Inside of both boxes passes the hammer test...... Hopefully hopefully I can run boxless and por-15 under it.

The sill support did not pass, I was able to poke a screwdriver through (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

FUcking previous owners never removing the rockers for cleaning... *sigh*


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post Jun 24 2009, 06:38 PM
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Passenger side jack box and long.

The rear portion of the long in pic 2 passed the hammer test.... it looks like it is through layer 1 however, working into layer 2.

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post Jun 24 2009, 06:47 PM
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You have no problems easy fix. All parts you can buy new, good luck. Are you going to try welding yourself?
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post Jun 24 2009, 07:03 PM
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Your 914 is completely restorable and should be. As McMark says, "the red one needs to be restored and find a new home". The red one would be setting at my house if I was closer to it.

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post Jun 24 2009, 07:15 PM
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I cut my bad jackpost off, and welded a piece where it was... and yours is in better shape... you'll be fine!
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post Jun 24 2009, 08:47 PM
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The front trunk looks like it was curbed at some point.


The front control arm locating bolts that are side to side are not disturbed it appears.

The third front bolt on the passenger side however is tweaked and that cover which goes over the bushing and pivot is tweaked kind of.

It looks as if a giant piece of wood and a sledge would talk it back down to being flush like the drivers side. The cover of the control arm bushing was disturbed, but it looks like it can be beaten back down with wood and a sledge hammer.

It looks like this narrowly avoided fucking up the orientation of the front mounting point for the control arm.

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post Jun 24 2009, 09:00 PM
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I dig that color. Its time for an ez resto.. got cash?
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post Jun 24 2009, 09:09 PM
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Here is what the exterior looks like.

It was getting dark, I had a hard time taking pictures.


So what do you guys think now that you have seen pretty much all the nasties of the vehicle?

51k original miles.

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post Jun 24 2009, 09:12 PM
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I dig that color. Its time for an ez resto.. got cash?



Yes hehehe. It is spread between this and my 89 right hand drive Syncro Golf 4 door. But the major cash has been spent rebuilding the motor, gearbox and angle drive for that.

The paintwork on this car is done. It has shaved door handles *UGH* but I am putting door handles back into it and the recess is being brought back into the sail.

After about 20 hours of dicking with the hood seal channel and rebuilding the cowl to fender box out of por patch, it is together.


Few years, or next paint job it will need metal at the fender to windshield cowl joins for sure to replace that por patch. The por patch should keep it sealed for a while.


I just want it to be clean, reliable, quick, and handle well. I plan on a lot of autox, and car shows. Subtle, clean, classy etc.
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post Jun 24 2009, 09:18 PM
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post Jun 24 2009, 09:30 PM
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Forgot to add these, this is what I had to sculpt out of por patch after prepping the rust :|

This side was the worst. I also think it ate into the fender some and was filled with filler before paint, but well you can't get a factory garage kept 914 that is perfect, unless you pay a mint. I am not rich.

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THe other side was a tiny pinhole, but obviously would soon be like this.
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post Jun 25 2009, 09:06 AM
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About the sill to long brace on the drivers side, I looked at my post which did not indicate what was through -- the long took a screwdriver through where the sill brace was mounted to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

So the long needs to be patched there as well, the screwdriver hit the flexible heater pipe inside.

How can that be patched without melting said heater pipe and how can I seal the weld back up inside?

I would hate to replace an entire long over that.
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