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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
What's up with my car's color code?, Mine doesn't match |
jt914-6 |
Aug 5 2009, 07:15 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
I bought a '74 2.0 years ago to do a six conversion. Had been in dry storage for about 10 years. It was in great condition with no rust at all. All there was under the rocker panels was dust/dirt. Didn't like the color and changed it.
The 914 world site's color chart is different than what my ID tag says. The ID paper tag says Saturn Yellow with a paint code of L99A, which is supposed to be Delphi Green Metallic. Do I have a misprinted tag? Also, the medal tag has L99A on it too. The car was Green from the factory as I took it apart down to the wiring harness..... The orignal paper tag..... The car ready for cage work....(GREEN) |
jt914-6 |
Aug 5 2009, 07:35 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
OH!!! Here's how it looks now.......time & money & labor down the road......
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Richard Casto |
Aug 5 2009, 08:34 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
I have never seen a paper sticker like that. Is that a factory sticker? Makes me wonder if it was added to the car by someone such as a paintshop? Maybe a PO had to have some/all of it repainted at somepoint?
If the Karmann body tag says "L 99 A", then it should be "Delphi Green Metallic". You say it's green and the photos look like what I think Delphi Green Metallic is supposed to look like (I am not very familar with that color). The German name for "L 99 A" is "Saturngelbmetallic" which has "Saturn" in the name. Maybe when whoever created that paper sticker, they had the german name for the paint and tried to find the closest English color (name wise) which is "Saturn Yellow"? Especially as that green is a very Yellowish green. Just a theory anyhow. |
jt914-6 |
Aug 5 2009, 08:47 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Richard, That paper tag was on it when I bought it from the owner. I'm not sure if he was the orignal owner, but no more than the second. He drove it untill he and his wife had a kid. It was put in dry storage for about 10 years when I bought it.
It's a '74, so the Delphi Green fits the year and L99A on the paper and Karmann tag. I'm not sure what happened to it. I hope I kept it somewhere. The pic is from right after I bought it and before it was painted. It doesn't look like the Saturn Yellow color patch on the color chart. The car WAS Delphi Green Metallic.....I was wondering if the paper tag was factory or not. As I said, I stripped it down to just the wire harness. The car is/was the color in the pic. |
tod914 |
Aug 5 2009, 08:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Mine has a paper tag on it too. Except it's in the driver's door jam, above the hinge. Maybe it's possible it's a factory repaint? Misprint on the tag irregardless. Think there was one other instance of somebody mentioning that a car was repainted by the factory prior to delivery on the board. I seen these tags on 74+ year cars. Not sure if the earlier ones had them.
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jt914-6 |
Aug 5 2009, 09:19 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
My paper tag was in the same spot as your's. The paper tag on mine was a misprint as far as I can tell. I had a '73 Sunflower Yellow at one time and it's color was closer to Saturn Yellow than the Delphi Green was.....
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tod914 |
Aug 5 2009, 09:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
I never seen that Saturn yellow on one before. Looks cool. btw great job on your resto.
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SirAndy |
Aug 6 2009, 10:46 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,712 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Here's a pic of my car's color tag. I see it is called Delphi Green Metallic. As you can see what it is called on my car. BTW, quickly changed the color to Ocean Blue Metallic (3AY). http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act...mp;sortby=sCode L99A Delphi Green Metallic (Saturngelb-Metallic) From the Page: The German color names are added in (small print) where available. Saturn Yellow Metallic is what it's called in German. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
JeffBowlsby |
Aug 6 2009, 02:41 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,580 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
These paper tags are found on some but not all late 1973-76 cars. Not sure why not all have them, unless owners just removed them...they are only paper. See more of the tags here: http://members.rennlist.com/914_collectibles/PLM.htm
PS I see some are in German text, others are in english text...great...another mystery. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Gustl |
Aug 6 2009, 03:31 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,541 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
The ID paper tag says Saturn Yellow with a paint code of L99A, which is supposed to be Delphi Green Metallic. that's not correct !! the paper says two-coat-metallic saturnyellow L99A saturn yellow = L13M saturnyellow metallic = L99A = delphi green as Andy wrote, that's just the german name, literaly translated to english I'm pretty sure that this paper is from the Karmann Factory and that they translated the german colour name because it was an export car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Gustl |
jt914-6 |
Aug 6 2009, 03:54 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys. I came across that pic while going through pics of the conversion and thought that something didn't match on the color chart. I didn't like the color anyway and it didn't matter what color car I bought for the conversion, it was going to get painted inside and out.
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914Sixer |
Aug 6 2009, 07:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,923 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The 75-76 cars had the paper paint tags in the dirivers door jam in addition to the Karman metal tag.
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Pat Garvey |
Aug 6 2009, 08:15 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
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jt914-6 |
Aug 6 2009, 10:00 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
914Sixer--My car is a *74*
Pat--Nope, doesn't matter any more, just thought it was strange having one code number and another code's name....... |
type2man |
Feb 12 2013, 07:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 3-March 09 From: Miami, Fl Member No.: 10,127 Region Association: South East States |
I have the same exact sticker on my 74 and it says saturnyellow when my car is indeed delphi green.
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beech4rd |
Feb 16 2013, 09:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: 10-January 07 From: Highwoods, Saugerties, NY Member No.: 7,445 Region Association: North East States |
I'm almost positive that those stickers were installed at Karmann. I had a 1978 VW Scirocco, built by Karmann and it had a very similar sticker in its trunk. Exactly the same font and style, only the colour name was different.
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SirAndy |
Feb 17 2013, 01:19 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,712 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I have the same exact sticker on my 74 and it says saturnyellow when my car is indeed delphi green. Read Gustl's post above: Saturnyellow Metallic = L99A = Delphi Green Saturnyellow Metallic is *not* the same as Saturn Yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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