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> The 25-year/250,000-mile refresh, UPDATE 5.15.2017: After first 1,000-mile trip
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post Feb 8 2008, 03:03 PM
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So I've decided to confront a few rust bubbles on my car, before painting it (the car looked great, but I never liked the wavy sides due to poor prep and no blocking).

If you can't stomach this first photo, please don't continue... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Unfortunately, here's where I got more than a little depressed and thought about rolling the car into the bay, or looking for a rust-free chassis...

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While the main firewall, hell hole (thank Mick for the Optima back in 1992!!!), and longitudinals appear to be good, this section has succumbed to the tin worm.

Damn you thoroughly, brown monster! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

We poked around in there quite a bit and the only good news is that the real firewall seems VERY strong. The bad news is that this is plain fugly. We'll fix it right, treat the area as best we can (possibily cutting "access" holes for the processs into this "outer" panel, and be thankful the Engman kit will cover this area and add strength.

To be honest, and I know there are far braver rust fighters than I, this greatly disheartened me. But then, I have owned this car since high school and another chassis number just wouldn't be the same.

Nonetheless, and PLEASE LISTEN TO ME HERE, fix that rear window, whatever it costs. I listened to mine rattle for years, and never took it too seriously. Now I am spending big hours and big bucks to fix the problems it created, years after I had the window fixed right. If you drive your 914 in the rain, this matters.

And, if you wash your 914 with running water, this matters...

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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Mar 5 2008, 11:02 PM) *

If you drive your 914 in the rain, this matters.

yieks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

mine was bad, but not that bad ...
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horizontally-opposed   The 25-year/250,000-mile refresh   Feb 8 2008, 03:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   That came from here...   Feb 8 2008, 03:04 PM
rdauenhauer   Where? :confused: Let me Guess :idea: ...Sails   Feb 8 2008, 03:13 PM
horizontally-opposed   Crap, I can't size some of the photos down sma...   Feb 8 2008, 03:16 PM
SirAndy   This is the left rear corner, has been bothering ...   Feb 14 2008, 11:57 AM
John   you will have to remove *ALL* of the foam in th...   Feb 14 2008, 12:38 PM
horizontally-opposed   Other sail panel.... Two pinholes + the factory h...   Feb 8 2008, 03:18 PM
horizontally-opposed   Two more pinholes in the right front fender, appar...   Feb 8 2008, 03:22 PM
horizontally-opposed   There's a wrong way to fill in the U.S. sidema...   Feb 8 2008, 03:24 PM
horizontally-opposed   And then there's a right way to do it... :wel...   Feb 8 2008, 03:25 PM
horizontally-opposed   Sorry for the sideways jpgs.... don't mean to ...   Feb 8 2008, 03:28 PM
horizontally-opposed   Last small enough photo for now... Taking the cha...   Feb 8 2008, 03:35 PM
McMark   I don't think so. B) It looks... well... ...   Feb 8 2008, 03:51 PM
rick 918-S   When you start to get discouraged be happy your no...   Feb 8 2008, 04:35 PM
horizontally-opposed   When you start to get discouraged be happy your n...   Feb 8 2008, 04:39 PM
horizontally-opposed   Paint shop will make the final decision on what to...   Feb 8 2008, 04:38 PM
TINCAN914   I don't know how much truth there is to this, ...   Feb 8 2008, 04:45 PM
horizontally-opposed   I don't know how much truth there is to this,...   Feb 8 2008, 04:47 PM
McMark   Yes it will if you paint over it. Make sure it...   Feb 8 2008, 05:46 PM
watsonrx13   BTW Pete, if you didn't already know, the firs...   Feb 8 2008, 05:51 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Pete, Make sure that your shop does a thorough se...   Feb 9 2008, 10:40 AM
horizontally-opposed   Pete, Make sure that your shop does a thorough s...   Feb 11 2008, 02:50 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   ... Let me ask you this: Was the rust on the back...   Feb 11 2008, 04:25 PM
Rusty   Dude... someone vandalized your car with a majik-m...   Feb 11 2008, 01:41 PM
championgt1   :rotfl:   Feb 11 2008, 02:02 PM
Jenny   :) I was expecting to see "Remember to pick ...   Feb 11 2008, 09:55 PM
horizontally-opposed   Hey Jenny, long time no see! :) Here's...   Feb 13 2008, 08:58 PM
horizontally-opposed   'nuther   Feb 13 2008, 08:59 PM
horizontally-opposed   "I *am* a Porsche reflector" holes remov...   Feb 13 2008, 09:00 PM
horizontally-opposed   and, while we're at it, antenna be gone...   Feb 13 2008, 09:02 PM
horizontally-opposed   ...   Feb 13 2008, 09:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   but by far the worst damage is this.... I wish I...   Feb 13 2008, 09:04 PM
horizontally-opposed   After melting the factory gunk (it is TOUGH stuff,...   Feb 13 2008, 09:05 PM
horizontally-opposed   engine lid in trunk, ready to go to paint shop... ...   Feb 13 2008, 09:10 PM
SGB   Mines time is coming one day. There are severalar...   Feb 13 2008, 10:33 PM
jd74914   What color is your car Pete? I really like it.   Feb 13 2008, 10:42 PM
horizontally-opposed   What color is your car Pete? I really like it. ...   Feb 14 2008, 10:39 AM
Porsche Rescue   I too am a bit of a back to original purist. But s...   Feb 14 2008, 11:23 AM
Travis Neff   Keep that Toranado red - it looks great on your ca...   Feb 14 2008, 12:43 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   a pair wearing Bahia Red......   Feb 14 2008, 01:22 PM
horizontally-opposed   Thanks very much for posting that!!! I...   Feb 14 2008, 02:17 PM
Ferg   I've owned both colors :D these shots were ...   Feb 14 2008, 02:57 PM
watsonrx13   Another sample of Bahia Red... I had this car pain...   Feb 15 2008, 07:49 AM
horizontally-opposed   So some progress has been made... First up are be...   Mar 6 2008, 12:09 AM
horizontally-opposed   Next up... the targa bar and LR fender by the tail...   Mar 6 2008, 12:11 AM
horizontally-opposed   Here's where things get interesting. After sc...   Mar 6 2008, 12:20 AM
horizontally-opposed   The two pinholes in the right front fender filled....   Mar 6 2008, 12:21 AM
horizontally-opposed   BUT, here's where the bummers begin. Same are...   Mar 6 2008, 12:24 AM
McMark   Looking good Pete! Glad to see the seam seale...   Mar 6 2008, 12:26 AM
horizontally-opposed   I stopped using canned primer/paint over my metal...   Mar 6 2008, 01:31 AM
stevesc_us   I stopped using canned primer/paint over my meta...   Mar 6 2008, 03:46 PM
McMark   I stopped using canned primer/paint over my met...   Mar 6 2008, 04:43 PM
horizontally-opposed   For sure. I've known that since it happened....   Mar 6 2008, 05:35 PM
McMark   For sure. I've known that since it happened...   Mar 6 2008, 09:40 PM
horizontally-opposed   While we were in there syndrome set in, so I decid...   Mar 6 2008, 12:39 AM
dw914er   man that stuff is scary i just had a surface pai...   Mar 6 2008, 12:42 AM
horizontally-opposed   As you can see, as soon as the Bahia-painted tar w...   Mar 6 2008, 12:43 AM
rick 918-S   :popcorn: :wavebye:   Mar 6 2008, 12:48 AM
horizontally-opposed   Get up close to things, and you can see where the ...   Mar 6 2008, 12:49 AM
horizontally-opposed   The right side beam under the seat, which appears ...   Mar 6 2008, 12:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   Unfortunately, here's where I got more than a ...   Mar 6 2008, 01:02 AM
SirAndy   If you drive your 914 in the rain, this matters. ...   Mar 6 2008, 02:19 AM
Richard Casto   Unfortunately, here's where I got more than a...   Mar 6 2008, 08:07 AM
McMark   BTW, you saw you have The Crack®, right?   Mar 6 2008, 12:56 PM
horizontally-opposed   BTW, you saw you have The Crack®, right? Did n...   Mar 6 2008, 01:23 PM
John   BTW, you saw you have The Crack®, right? Did ...   Mar 6 2008, 09:50 PM
dw914er   gotta love old cars (any old car, doesnt exactly m...   Mar 6 2008, 03:53 PM
Krieger914   You can do it man! Hang in there for pete...   Mar 6 2008, 09:33 PM
Engman   BTW, you saw you have The Crack®, right? Did ...   Mar 6 2008, 09:46 PM
horizontally-opposed   Thanks, guys. Longitudinals look and sound good -...   Mar 6 2008, 10:43 PM
horizontally-opposed   Unfortunately, the left box didn't appear to h...   Mar 6 2008, 10:45 PM
horizontally-opposed   Moving along, here's what I took out of the vo...   Apr 3 2008, 04:02 PM
horizontally-opposed   The good... (kinda)   Apr 3 2008, 04:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   And the ugly...   Apr 3 2008, 04:04 PM
horizontally-opposed   Now, onto the interior...   Apr 3 2008, 04:06 PM
horizontally-opposed   closer in on the lowered driver's seat...   Apr 3 2008, 04:07 PM
horizontally-opposed   And closer still...   Apr 3 2008, 04:08 PM
horizontally-opposed   another angle... Bolted the GTS seat in after thi...   Apr 3 2008, 04:12 PM
horizontally-opposed   Now for the not so fun:   Apr 3 2008, 04:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   "My" hell hole...   Apr 3 2008, 04:16 PM
horizontally-opposed   Another angle of hell...   Apr 3 2008, 04:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   Engman kit preparations. Very nice kit. Some holes...   Apr 3 2008, 04:19 PM
horizontally-opposed   Another...   Apr 3 2008, 04:20 PM
horizontally-opposed   And one more... of the seatbelt bolt hole. Both ha...   Apr 3 2008, 04:28 PM
horizontally-opposed   After much discussion, reviews of all the installa...   Apr 3 2008, 04:29 PM
rick 918-S   Nice to hear about the progress Pete. :welder: :s...   Apr 3 2008, 10:18 PM
McMark   No doubt this thread is useful! Keep 'em ...   Apr 4 2008, 12:19 AM
Engman   Thank you for posting the pics! I always ask f...   Apr 4 2008, 11:48 AM
Root_Werks   I installed my kit last year. Went in like butter...   Apr 4 2008, 04:08 PM
horizontally-opposed   Mark, I too think your kit rocks! And I think...   Apr 4 2008, 10:42 PM
Engman   Thanks - but I am always on the lookout to improve...   Apr 4 2008, 11:52 PM
horizontally-opposed   Kit in place...   Apr 7 2008, 01:55 PM
horizontally-opposed   closer...   Apr 7 2008, 01:58 PM
horizontally-opposed   Bulk of sills are still Bahia thanks to the alumin...   Apr 7 2008, 01:59 PM
horizontally-opposed   Once the jack-post boxes were cut away, we found s...   Apr 7 2008, 02:02 PM
horizontally-opposed   and the left side...   Apr 7 2008, 02:02 PM
horizontally-opposed   So this is where the car stands today. Just a litt...   Apr 7 2008, 02:05 PM
horizontally-opposed   And from the rear. Man those 165s on steelies are ...   Apr 7 2008, 02:06 PM
horizontally-opposed   In my ongoing struggle with Bahia vs. Toronado, I...   Apr 7 2008, 03:40 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Anyway, out of respect for bandwidth, am I comm...   Apr 7 2008, 04:23 PM
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