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> Crazy idea for the Type IV engine shroud..., ..but I think it would look crazy good!
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post Mar 18 2008, 05:35 PM
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So I've seen a lot of people do interesting things with the stock Type IV shroud to make it look more interesting. Body color, silver, red, orange, you name it. But none of these has really appealed to me. I've thought about ideas like CF (too modern for the car for my tastes) and wrinkle black (the way I would probably go). But then I saw the shroud in this thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=81971

I like this color, as it reminds me of the old Bosch distributor caps. But then THAT got me to thinking about another material I associate with this color, and that's the ultra-trick and way cool naked fiberglass Porsche used to use on 906/911R motors as well as throughout the 908s and 917s. Morspeed has duplicated it, albeit at far higher levels of quality and MUCH higher gloss, for its restorations.

Question is, could it be done for reasonable money? Could the stock shroud be used to make a mold? I frankly can't think of a cooler looking, period-correct hotrod 914-4 engine bay than this setup with a pair of carbs so long as the finish can be nailed. I think I'd like it even better than the Fat Perf. setup and the DTM, though I know it wouldn't outperform the latter.

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post Mar 19 2008, 10:56 AM
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Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to be removed to make the units from glass inside molds.

The only killer is the "llok" can't be achieved with components that need to be super strong as the glass gets too thick to allow the transparency. Thats what would make the blower housing difficult to make because it has to accomodate an alternator bracket and needs rigidity.

The cylinder tins would be fairly easy to do since they need little strength or rigidity.

My X4CS DTM Carrera cooling system should do enough in the looks department to take things to the next level and its being made for effectiveness more than a "look" as I have little to no desire to make blingy items that don't increase the longevity/reliability/efficiency or power of an engine while looking good.
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Mar 19 2008, 09:56 AM) *

Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to be removed to make the units from glass inside molds.

The only killer is the "llok" can't be achieved with components that need to be super strong as the glass gets too thick to allow the transparency. Thats what would make the blower housing difficult to make because it has to accomodate an alternator bracket and needs rigidity.



I think the only way this idea makes sense is for those who don't need/don't want/can't afford the DTM setup.

So, as a replacement for the stock tin on the engine (which many building your motors retain) could it be done? I get the sense you mean the structural issues are only issues with your upgraded cooling systems. And the setup you hint at here, as well as the Fat IV setup (too bad it seems to need an internal redesign), don't need any aesthetic help. Just some gloss black paint, or whatever color people want.

I am also not interested in items that look blingy, either. Period. But, as someone wise once said, once the man is made, clothing greatly improves his appearance. The 914's Type IV has never been, uh, particularly nice looking, even with carbs. Just trying to think of ways to address that... I also like the idea of the appearance of the engine bay reflecting the idea that 100-150 pounds have been saved over installing a 911 engine... and nothing says "lightweight" like 911R cues.

The opposite of bling, in my book.

Looking at that four-cam motor prompted me to wonder if you of all people have played around with twin-plugging the Type IV. I remember an article way back when about RPM in Florida doing it, and that the writer said the "smoothness" of the twin-plug Type IV was very noticeable. Given that you're doing your own heads, and the availability of V8 distributors out there (as opposed to the no easy/cheap way to fire a twin-plug flat 6). Or have you arrived at the conclusion that it's not necessary?

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horizontally-opposed   Crazy idea for the Type IV engine shroud...   Mar 18 2008, 05:35 PM
McMark   I think it's a great idea Pete. Got any good ...   Mar 18 2008, 05:41 PM
McMark   This look, right?   Mar 18 2008, 05:52 PM
horizontally-opposed   This look, right? THAT'S the look... I th...   Mar 18 2008, 06:10 PM
rick 918-S   This look, right? :drooley: That peaks the ne...   Mar 19 2008, 07:48 AM
pin31   Carbon Fiber would look cool.....   Mar 18 2008, 06:07 PM
Jake Raby   It's simple... We can easily do this by just u...   Mar 18 2008, 07:41 PM
horizontally-opposed   It's simple... We can easily do this by just ...   Mar 19 2008, 10:36 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   So I've seen a lot of people do interesting t...   Mar 18 2008, 08:02 PM
Dave_Darling   "Natural"? Since when is red gel-coat ...   Mar 18 2008, 08:54 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I meant ...   Mar 18 2008, 09:48 PM
Jake Raby   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I meant...   Mar 19 2008, 07:27 AM
ericread   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I mean...   Mar 19 2008, 02:22 PM
749142   ever thought about chrome? my father had a 72, he...   Mar 18 2008, 10:38 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Hey Mark... can I have that fiberglass 6 engine sh...   Mar 18 2008, 11:16 PM
Jake Raby   Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to be...   Mar 19 2008, 10:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to b...   Mar 19 2008, 11:05 AM
jd74914   That 4-cam has very interesting throttle linkage. ...   Mar 19 2008, 11:46 AM
Jake Raby   Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines ...   Mar 19 2008, 11:52 AM
r_towle   Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines...   Mar 19 2008, 02:08 PM
purple   uh, Jake, Can I put A DTM setup on my crappy hyd...   Mar 19 2008, 01:10 PM
Jake Raby   yeah, but do you really need it?   Mar 19 2008, 01:11 PM
purple   yeah, but do you really need it? Funny you shou...   Mar 19 2008, 01:29 PM
So.Cal.914   The engine's temp tops out at 350 when I...   Mar 19 2008, 02:46 PM
Jake Raby   Nope, you don't need a DTM... Glad our things...   Mar 19 2008, 01:44 PM
Jake Raby   This engine has intake ports that flow 225 CFM, th...   Mar 19 2008, 02:48 PM
r_towle   IDA's are the best thing for a hard dyno pull,...   Mar 19 2008, 03:09 PM
Jake Raby   Yes. The engine hardly has to work and the high CR...   Mar 19 2008, 03:30 PM
Rav914   Well this topic got waaaay off target.... How abo...   May 16 2010, 06:12 PM


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