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> Crazy idea for the Type IV engine shroud..., ..but I think it would look crazy good!
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post Mar 18 2008, 05:35 PM
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So I've seen a lot of people do interesting things with the stock Type IV shroud to make it look more interesting. Body color, silver, red, orange, you name it. But none of these has really appealed to me. I've thought about ideas like CF (too modern for the car for my tastes) and wrinkle black (the way I would probably go). But then I saw the shroud in this thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=81971

I like this color, as it reminds me of the old Bosch distributor caps. But then THAT got me to thinking about another material I associate with this color, and that's the ultra-trick and way cool naked fiberglass Porsche used to use on 906/911R motors as well as throughout the 908s and 917s. Morspeed has duplicated it, albeit at far higher levels of quality and MUCH higher gloss, for its restorations.

Question is, could it be done for reasonable money? Could the stock shroud be used to make a mold? I frankly can't think of a cooler looking, period-correct hotrod 914-4 engine bay than this setup with a pair of carbs so long as the finish can be nailed. I think I'd like it even better than the Fat Perf. setup and the DTM, though I know it wouldn't outperform the latter.

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post Mar 19 2008, 11:52 AM
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Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines larger than 102mm bore size and has been for a couple of years.

This is my Wife's recently completed German Look 79 Vert. It sports a 2.8L twin plug TIV and is pictured here two weekends ago laying down 195 RWHP and 206 lb/ft of torque with max HP@ 5,400 RPM and max torque at 3,500 at the Southeast Dyno Day
(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3403.jpg)

(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3434.jpg)


here is the IDA Weber equipped twin plug beast. It idles at 800 RPM smooth as silk and has the throttle response of a crotch rocket. It runs 10.5:1 CR on 89 octane pump gas and this weekend it got 33.3 MPG on it's first long distance cruise.
(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3435.jpg)

here is the youtube video of the dyno pull.. At the end you'll hear someone say "no way, that has to be a mistake".. The engine sounds so stock no one would ever believe it makes 250 FWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJI6nhwy10

Here is the dyno graph from my dyno that was done prior to the event, the difference was the muffler that we had to run for dyno day pulled 20 HP from the engine, but Chris and I are working on the redesign now. Lok at the power and look at the revs, thats the amazing part. What N/A 911 engine can do that!!
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We can do twin plugs with carbs and this modified Nissan dizzy, or with EFI and twin plug direct ignition.

This is one of the things I wanted to talk to you about!

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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Mar 19 2008, 01:52 PM) *

Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines larger than 102mm bore size and has been for a couple of years.

This is my Wife's recently completed German Look 79 Vert. It sports a 2.8L twin plug TIV and is pictured here two weekends ago laying down 195 RWHP and 206 lb/ft of torque with max HP@ 5,400 RPM and max torque at 3,500 at the Southeast Dyno Day
(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3403.jpg)

(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3434.jpg)


here is the IDA Weber equipped twin plug beast. It idles at 800 RPM smooth as silk and has the throttle response of a crotch rocket. It runs 10.5:1 CR on 89 octane pump gas and this weekend it got 33.3 MPG on it's first long distance cruise.
(IMG:http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/wrenchnride247/100_3435.jpg)

here is the youtube video of the dyno pull.. At the end you'll hear someone say "no way, that has to be a mistake".. The engine sounds so stock no one would ever believe it makes 250 FWHP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJI6nhwy10

Here is the dyno graph from my dyno that was done prior to the event, the difference was the muffler that we had to run for dyno day pulled 20 HP from the engine, but Chris and I are working on the redesign now. Lok at the power and look at the revs, thats the amazing part. What N/A 911 engine can do that!!
Attached Image

We can do twin plugs with carbs and this modified Nissan dizzy, or with EFI and twin plug direct ignition.

This is one of the things I wanted to talk to you about!


I thought you hated IDA carbs.....
What have you modified???

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horizontally-opposed   Crazy idea for the Type IV engine shroud...   Mar 18 2008, 05:35 PM
McMark   I think it's a great idea Pete. Got any good ...   Mar 18 2008, 05:41 PM
McMark   This look, right?   Mar 18 2008, 05:52 PM
horizontally-opposed   This look, right? THAT'S the look... I th...   Mar 18 2008, 06:10 PM
rick 918-S   This look, right? :drooley: That peaks the ne...   Mar 19 2008, 07:48 AM
pin31   Carbon Fiber would look cool.....   Mar 18 2008, 06:07 PM
Jake Raby   It's simple... We can easily do this by just u...   Mar 18 2008, 07:41 PM
horizontally-opposed   It's simple... We can easily do this by just ...   Mar 19 2008, 10:36 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   So I've seen a lot of people do interesting t...   Mar 18 2008, 08:02 PM
Dave_Darling   "Natural"? Since when is red gel-coat ...   Mar 18 2008, 08:54 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I meant ...   Mar 18 2008, 09:48 PM
Jake Raby   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I meant...   Mar 19 2008, 07:27 AM
ericread   Noooooooo, It didn't come out right, I mean...   Mar 19 2008, 02:22 PM
749142   ever thought about chrome? my father had a 72, he...   Mar 18 2008, 10:38 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Hey Mark... can I have that fiberglass 6 engine sh...   Mar 18 2008, 11:16 PM
Jake Raby   Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to be...   Mar 19 2008, 10:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   Some of the ridges are there, but a few have to b...   Mar 19 2008, 11:05 AM
jd74914   That 4-cam has very interesting throttle linkage. ...   Mar 19 2008, 11:46 AM
Jake Raby   Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines ...   Mar 19 2008, 11:52 AM
r_towle   Pete, twin plugging is standard on all my engines...   Mar 19 2008, 02:08 PM
purple   uh, Jake, Can I put A DTM setup on my crappy hyd...   Mar 19 2008, 01:10 PM
Jake Raby   yeah, but do you really need it?   Mar 19 2008, 01:11 PM
purple   yeah, but do you really need it? Funny you shou...   Mar 19 2008, 01:29 PM
So.Cal.914   The engine's temp tops out at 350 when I...   Mar 19 2008, 02:46 PM
Jake Raby   Nope, you don't need a DTM... Glad our things...   Mar 19 2008, 01:44 PM
Jake Raby   This engine has intake ports that flow 225 CFM, th...   Mar 19 2008, 02:48 PM
r_towle   IDA's are the best thing for a hard dyno pull,...   Mar 19 2008, 03:09 PM
Jake Raby   Yes. The engine hardly has to work and the high CR...   Mar 19 2008, 03:30 PM
Rav914   Well this topic got waaaay off target.... How abo...   May 16 2010, 06:12 PM


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