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> Anyone ever break a head stud?, Looking for ideas, tools success stories, horror stories, what cha got
rick 918-S
post Apr 27 2008, 04:56 PM
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I'm building a 928 hybrid engine which is comprised of a 5.0L 32 valve short block with 16 valve euro spec "S" heads, spyder and CIS from the 4.7L "S" engine.

I stole some time from my busy work schedule to prep my 928 block for the machine shop. The head studs need to be removed for the boring process.

Now I've pulled studs before without incedent. But as Murphy would have it, this time I broke one of the studs flush at the start of the threads.

So I have the threaded section ( 1 1/4"long ) hardened head bolt stuck in the block. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but the stud is free standing in a 3 1/2" deep hole in the block!

Here's a crude drawing of the problem I'm faced with.

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Here's the stud.

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Here's the stark reality of the stud in and out of the block. The stud slides down a 3 1/2" deep hole in the block before it starts to thread in.

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I'm going to make a drill collet as a guide for a pilot bit. The problem is I need a long, reverse twist drill bit.

Most drill bits are approx 5" long. the hole is 3 1/2", the threaded section is 1 1/4" for a total of 4 3/4". See the problem?

Then, what the #$!! do you drill a hardened bolt with?

Anyone know of a good tool source? This is beyond most Mac and Snap on stuff I would think.
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post May 1 2008, 10:29 PM
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To center the drill, find a piece of pipe with the OD the size of the hole and the ID of the drill bit. It should act as a guide and allow you to drill exactly in the center.
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post May 1 2008, 10:40 PM
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To center the drill, find a piece of pipe with the OD the size of the hole and the ID of the drill bit. It should act as a guide and allow you to drill exactly in the center.


I have a friend with a lathe. I'm going to turn a an extension that will double as a guide for the O.D.
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rick 918-S   Anyone ever break a head stud?   Apr 27 2008, 04:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   Let your machinist deal with it? Probably end up ...   Apr 27 2008, 05:49 PM
SGB   Looks like a "major malfunction". Wha...   Apr 27 2008, 05:52 PM
scotty b   Rick the guy I started out working for had the EXA...   Apr 27 2008, 05:59 PM
spare time toys   Could always use that spare block that came from C...   Apr 28 2008, 03:02 AM
Richard Casto   I have no idea what the cost of this is, but EDM (...   Apr 28 2008, 08:14 AM
Richard Casto   I have no idea what the cost of this is, but EDM ...   Apr 28 2008, 08:21 AM
Bartlett 914   I have no idea what the cost of this is, but EDM ...   Apr 28 2008, 08:22 AM
r_towle   I believe the correct bit is made from Cobalt. The...   Apr 28 2008, 08:22 AM
rick 918-S   Larry, I broke that CA. block when I had a valve f...   Apr 28 2008, 08:52 AM
rudedude   Rick, There is a tool dealer in st paul, Norseman...   Apr 28 2008, 09:04 AM
rick 918-S   Rick, There is a tool dealer in st paul, Norsema...   Apr 28 2008, 10:49 AM
Richard Casto   Rick, If you go the EDM route, I would be curious...   Apr 28 2008, 09:52 AM
rick 918-S   I contacted the EDM guy. He didn't think he co...   Apr 28 2008, 10:23 AM
rick 918-S   BTW: My machine shop offered to drill it out and i...   Apr 28 2008, 10:57 AM
Cap'n Krusty   A good EDM guy can probably do it. I have a numbe...   Apr 28 2008, 11:32 AM
kwales   Aircraft work sometimes requires extra long drill ...   Apr 28 2008, 06:58 PM
rick 918-S   OK, I did some deep thinking about this today. Unf...   Apr 28 2008, 08:58 PM
r_towle   I bet you could get a new block for cheap....serio...   Apr 29 2008, 11:02 AM
r_towle   Have you called 928 international??? Maybe they ha...   Apr 29 2008, 11:03 AM
rick 918-S   Have you called 928 international??? Maybe they h...   Apr 29 2008, 11:27 AM
Bartlett 914   What is the size and pitch? How hard is it? You ca...   Apr 29 2008, 11:49 AM
rick 918-S   What is the size and pitch? How hard is it? You c...   Apr 29 2008, 12:43 PM
Bartlett 914   With any luck the bolt will be a little softer ...   Apr 29 2008, 01:20 PM
rick 918-S   The tools arrived today. All left hand or left twi...   May 1 2008, 07:24 PM
GWN7   To center the drill, find a piece of pipe with the...   May 1 2008, 10:29 PM
rick 918-S   To center the drill, find a piece of pipe with th...   May 1 2008, 10:40 PM
Bartlett 914   To center the drill, find a piece of pipe with t...   May 2 2008, 08:46 AM
rick 918-S   [quote name='rick 918-S' post='1027210' date...   May 2 2008, 10:00 AM
Richard Casto   I hope this works out for you. :popcorn:   May 2 2008, 07:52 AM
rick 918-S   I ran a test tonight on the broken stud. The left ...   May 5 2008, 12:24 AM
Wilhelm   I've had luck getting a stud out of a deep hol...   May 5 2008, 04:23 AM
rick 918-S   I've had luck getting a stud out of a deep ho...   May 5 2008, 08:07 AM
Joe Mama   That's sounds like the best DIY idea. Other t...   May 5 2008, 09:02 AM
Dr Evil   Well?   May 8 2008, 01:21 PM
rick 918-S   Well? I can't get a break! I drilled th...   May 9 2008, 08:47 AM
Wilhelm   Well? I can't get a break! I drilled t...   May 9 2008, 07:59 PM
rick 918-S   No access from the bottom. It comes out through pa...   May 9 2008, 08:56 PM
rick 918-S   I tried welding a piece of square tube to the bolt...   May 12 2008, 12:22 AM


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