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> OT: any club/bar owners on here?, thinking about taking over a club ...
SirAndy
post May 2 2008, 12:54 PM
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so i've been thinking about opening a bar/club here in oakland for a while now and yesterday i was offered what i would consider the ideal venue.

the club has been at the current place for 25 years, comes with full inventory, liquor license, venue license, got a large outside patio where people can smoke & drink, full bar, full kitchen (!), large stage for shows. about 3000 sf of inside space.
the current owner has simply been burned out and wants to retire.

now i have run my own bar back in germany and i'm friends with several club owners back home, so i know the business side of it, but it would be great if i could pick someone's brain who has run a bar/club here in the US.
i'm sure there'll be quite a few differences.

if you know anything about the club/bar business, please PM me so i can annoy you with lots of questions!
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post May 2 2008, 01:02 PM
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My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The rowdiest place in town 3.2 joint. There were 8 fights in 5 hours, started before noon one Sunday. I was working by myself...

Great way to make a small fortune.... out of a big one.
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post May 2 2008, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ May 2 2008, 12:02 PM) *

My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The rowdiest place in town 3.2 joint. There were 8 fights in 5 hours, started before noon one Sunday. I was working by myself...

Great way to make a small fortune.... out of a big one.


I'm trying to picture Rick Ollah as a BOUNCER? Did you break up the fight yourself or did you have help? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Are you in posession of some super secret martial arts skills? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) I've seen a few bar fights and my attitude is... "give me three steps toward the door"!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Cheers, Elliot (let me outa here) Cannon
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post May 3 2008, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ May 2 2008, 09:30 PM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ May 2 2008, 12:02 PM) *

My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The rowdiest place in town 3.2 joint. There were 8 fights in 5 hours, started before noon one Sunday. I was working by myself...

Great way to make a small fortune.... out of a big one.


I'm trying to picture Rick Ollah as a BOUNCER? Did you break up the fight yourself or did you have help? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Are you in posession of some super secret martial arts skills? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) I've seen a few bar fights and my attitude is... "give me three steps toward the door"!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Cheers, Elliot (let me outa here) Cannon


I can see where a big guy like you is coming from with that grin an chuckle. But, well, yes, as a matter of fact I did walked several drunks out the door by myself. I'm kind of one of those guys that run into the fire.

This is 32 years ago. I was just 6 months out of my body cast after major back surgury and I weighed 89 lbs. I'm not kidding. I looked like Popeye. I used to do 100 pushups in my body cast. I had big arms and a skeleton for a frame.
You can ask Sandy next time we see you. We've been together for 32 years.

You really can't get in a good old fashion fist fight anymore. Now when you fight a guy he doesn't pull a knife he pulls a lawyer.

Now you couldn't get away with this now but, I had a sawed off pool que behind the bar and I wasn't afraid to use it. You would be surprised how easy it is to walk a drunk guy out the door after one small crack with a blunt end of a pool que. It really stings. And when your drunk, your processor isn't working very good. By the time you figure out why your hand, shoulder, thigh or head hurts, I have you off balance by the shirt and belt and I'm walking your snuggy out the door fast.

I never had a fight with anyone smaller than me, and I've only had my bell rung once. I like being the nice guy with the smiling face and nice things to say, but I'm kind of like a pit bull when my trigger is tripped. Ask Sandy what happened to the big Swede that stole her purse one night when we were 18.

Sorry for the Hi-jack response Sir, But it's life in the old school bar scene.
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SirAndy   OT: any club/bar owners on here?   May 2 2008, 12:54 PM
rick 918-S   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The rowd...   May 2 2008, 01:02 PM
SirAndy   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The row...   May 2 2008, 01:18 PM
Elliot Cannon   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The row...   May 2 2008, 11:30 PM
rick 918-S   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The ro...   May 3 2008, 12:06 AM
Trevorg7   Andy - no personal experience but I can put you in...   May 2 2008, 01:06 PM
Danny_Ocean   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost m...   May 2 2008, 01:35 PM
SirAndy   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost ...   May 2 2008, 01:40 PM
Danny_Ocean   ...oakland does not issue any new liquor licenses ...   May 2 2008, 01:48 PM
SirAndy   So, screw the club idea. Buy the place and obtain...   May 2 2008, 01:58 PM
r_towle   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost...   May 9 2008, 01:00 PM
TeenerTim   I lived in Fremont and Milpitas for about 8 years ...   May 9 2008, 02:15 PM
SirAndy   I lived in Fremont and Milpitas for about 8 years...   May 9 2008, 06:06 PM
jimtab   [quote name='TeenerTim' post='1030178' date='May ...   May 9 2008, 07:58 PM
rick 918-S   Oh ya, You'll make money. Rule the place like ...   May 2 2008, 01:36 PM
ericread   In order to keep this on topic... Did I hear ...   May 2 2008, 02:01 PM
McMark   Kind of right, CALIFORNIA does not issue any new ...   May 2 2008, 02:11 PM
purple   Kind of right, CALIFORNIA does not issue any new...   May 2 2008, 02:25 PM
ConeDodger   Rick, You should explain to Andy that Minnesota i...   May 2 2008, 02:27 PM
KaptKaos   Rick, You should explain to Andy that Minnesota ...   May 2 2008, 03:11 PM
pin31   be careful....... Most bar/restaurant owners I kn...   May 2 2008, 02:37 PM
SirAndy   Most bar/restaurant owners I know end up burnt ou...   May 2 2008, 02:40 PM
Rick_Eberle   be careful....... Most bar/restaurant owners I k...   May 2 2008, 10:24 PM
pin31   All kidding aside...it happened to one of my close...   May 2 2008, 02:57 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I bartended for a club for many years here in Seat...   May 2 2008, 03:14 PM
Marty Yeoman   But how's the parking? :beer1:   May 2 2008, 03:15 PM
SirAndy   But how's the parking? :beer1: no parking l...   May 2 2008, 03:22 PM
Madswede   Hey Andy: Liz and Nico Ortiz are the owners/operat...   May 2 2008, 03:22 PM
SirAndy   Hey Andy: Liz and Nico Ortiz are the owners/opera...   May 2 2008, 04:11 PM
Joe Mama   Hey...a 914 Club House.... Food/Health Inspectors...   May 3 2008, 12:44 AM
Joe Mama   Hey...a 914 Club House.... Food/Health Inspector...   May 9 2008, 02:22 PM
Rick_Eberle   Probably no help, but there is a guy named Ian, wh...   May 3 2008, 01:01 AM
SirAndy   and also owned "The Ruby Room" in Oakla...   May 3 2008, 12:35 PM
flippa   Andy A buddy of mine just opened a bar back here ...   May 3 2008, 12:43 PM
keske968   Hmmmm sounds to me like you already have your mind...   May 3 2008, 04:35 PM
porschecb   Reminds of owning a boat or a motorhome. The best...   May 3 2008, 04:51 PM
Dr Evil   Do it! You can always quit afterwards and even...   May 4 2008, 08:27 AM
rhodyguy   i allways thought you walked them through the (clo...   May 4 2008, 12:59 PM
Carlitos Way   Here's my experience as an entertainer for a f...   May 4 2008, 01:18 PM
SirAndy   Sounds like you're leaning toward a "pun...   May 4 2008, 03:16 PM
Jeffs9146   Hey Andy I currently own 2 bars in Hollywood! ...   May 4 2008, 06:23 PM
mel reckling   Over the years some of the one's I've seen...   May 5 2008, 08:00 AM
ericread   WOW! :beer2: I always knew that us teener ...   May 5 2008, 08:23 AM
brer   spend the money to keep the place clean man. I ra...   May 5 2008, 11:18 AM
Jeffs9146   I agree! We covered our floors with Aircraft...   May 5 2008, 01:24 PM
9146986   :agree: I've been in my share of clubs (in a...   May 6 2008, 01:05 PM
SirAndy   meeting with the owner today ... looks like this m...   May 9 2008, 12:18 PM
dw914er   if you ever need some entertainment for it, let me...   May 9 2008, 12:27 PM
Jeffs9146   This is what I was refering to! Our problem ...   May 9 2008, 01:54 PM
sean_v8_914   GO FOR IT!!! SHOULDA, COULDA, WOULDA, ...   May 9 2008, 11:02 PM
SirAndy   well, the ball is rolling ... met with the owner y...   May 10 2008, 01:36 PM
Marty Yeoman   well, the ball is rolling ... it looks like it...   May 13 2008, 02:07 PM
ericread   Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... When's the ...   May 10 2008, 09:02 PM
effutuo101   Cool! Glad to hear it Andy! Time to book R...   May 13 2008, 03:28 PM
SirAndy   working away with the lawyers and certain governme...   May 15 2008, 02:32 PM
ChrisReale   Drop me a line if you need any help getting things...   May 15 2008, 04:24 PM


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