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> OT: any club/bar owners on here?, thinking about taking over a club ...
SirAndy
post May 2 2008, 12:54 PM
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so i've been thinking about opening a bar/club here in oakland for a while now and yesterday i was offered what i would consider the ideal venue.

the club has been at the current place for 25 years, comes with full inventory, liquor license, venue license, got a large outside patio where people can smoke & drink, full bar, full kitchen (!), large stage for shows. about 3000 sf of inside space.
the current owner has simply been burned out and wants to retire.

now i have run my own bar back in germany and i'm friends with several club owners back home, so i know the business side of it, but it would be great if i could pick someone's brain who has run a bar/club here in the US.
i'm sure there'll be quite a few differences.

if you know anything about the club/bar business, please PM me so i can annoy you with lots of questions!
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Hey Andy I currently own 2 bars in Hollywood! We are selling them as we speak! www.yamashirorestaurant.com & www.magiccastle.com

One of the problems we are encountering is the liquor licence. Transfer in California is issued to an "individule" not a buisness. Do your due dilligence! It can take up to 2 years to successfuly transfer a licence.

First I would check the local laws and current zoning for the buisness as it is now. Then check to see if they have any conditional use permits as well as the last time they were renewed.

Create an LLC and put the buisness licence, and everything involving the club, in that name. Then get insurance for the buisness and alot of extra for you! More than $1M to cover you if the liquor served causes a death! We are currently sued at least once a month for everything under the sun so make sure you have a lawer on your side and your insurance will pay them.

Install a drop safe that is poured in concrete and can not be accessed by the night manager or anyone on staff other than to drop $. Set up a log and double check (two people verification) for all drops and when the safe is opened do not count the money without a very secured bullet proof door or have a security company pick it up and deliver it to the bank where you take the drop log and verify the deposit corisponds to the drop tags in each envelope. We have the person do a duplicate deposit slip and seal the envelope with two people counting the deposit and signing the slip and the envelope. We were robbed of Fri, Sat & Sun night tickets at gun point when the manager was walking from the drop safe to the office! We lost over $55k and the manager sued us for on the job stress!

OK I can go on forever but you get the idea! Feel free to ask me anything you want and I will try to help!
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SirAndy   OT: any club/bar owners on here?   May 2 2008, 12:54 PM
rick 918-S   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The rowd...   May 2 2008, 01:02 PM
SirAndy   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The row...   May 2 2008, 01:18 PM
Elliot Cannon   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The row...   May 2 2008, 11:30 PM
rick 918-S   My Dad and I had a bar biz when I was 18. The ro...   May 3 2008, 12:06 AM
Trevorg7   Andy - no personal experience but I can put you in...   May 2 2008, 01:06 PM
Danny_Ocean   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost m...   May 2 2008, 01:35 PM
SirAndy   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost ...   May 2 2008, 01:40 PM
Danny_Ocean   ...oakland does not issue any new liquor licenses ...   May 2 2008, 01:48 PM
SirAndy   So, screw the club idea. Buy the place and obtain...   May 2 2008, 01:58 PM
r_towle   Last time I checked, a liquor license in CA cost...   May 9 2008, 01:00 PM
TeenerTim   I lived in Fremont and Milpitas for about 8 years ...   May 9 2008, 02:15 PM
SirAndy   I lived in Fremont and Milpitas for about 8 years...   May 9 2008, 06:06 PM
jimtab   [quote name='TeenerTim' post='1030178' date='May ...   May 9 2008, 07:58 PM
rick 918-S   Oh ya, You'll make money. Rule the place like ...   May 2 2008, 01:36 PM
ericread   In order to keep this on topic... Did I hear ...   May 2 2008, 02:01 PM
McMark   Kind of right, CALIFORNIA does not issue any new ...   May 2 2008, 02:11 PM
purple   Kind of right, CALIFORNIA does not issue any new...   May 2 2008, 02:25 PM
ConeDodger   Rick, You should explain to Andy that Minnesota i...   May 2 2008, 02:27 PM
KaptKaos   Rick, You should explain to Andy that Minnesota ...   May 2 2008, 03:11 PM
pin31   be careful....... Most bar/restaurant owners I kn...   May 2 2008, 02:37 PM
SirAndy   Most bar/restaurant owners I know end up burnt ou...   May 2 2008, 02:40 PM
Rick_Eberle   be careful....... Most bar/restaurant owners I k...   May 2 2008, 10:24 PM
pin31   All kidding aside...it happened to one of my close...   May 2 2008, 02:57 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I bartended for a club for many years here in Seat...   May 2 2008, 03:14 PM
Marty Yeoman   But how's the parking? :beer1:   May 2 2008, 03:15 PM
SirAndy   But how's the parking? :beer1: no parking l...   May 2 2008, 03:22 PM
Madswede   Hey Andy: Liz and Nico Ortiz are the owners/operat...   May 2 2008, 03:22 PM
SirAndy   Hey Andy: Liz and Nico Ortiz are the owners/opera...   May 2 2008, 04:11 PM
Joe Mama   Hey...a 914 Club House.... Food/Health Inspectors...   May 3 2008, 12:44 AM
Joe Mama   Hey...a 914 Club House.... Food/Health Inspector...   May 9 2008, 02:22 PM
Rick_Eberle   Probably no help, but there is a guy named Ian, wh...   May 3 2008, 01:01 AM
SirAndy   and also owned "The Ruby Room" in Oakla...   May 3 2008, 12:35 PM
flippa   Andy A buddy of mine just opened a bar back here ...   May 3 2008, 12:43 PM
keske968   Hmmmm sounds to me like you already have your mind...   May 3 2008, 04:35 PM
porschecb   Reminds of owning a boat or a motorhome. The best...   May 3 2008, 04:51 PM
Dr Evil   Do it! You can always quit afterwards and even...   May 4 2008, 08:27 AM
rhodyguy   i allways thought you walked them through the (clo...   May 4 2008, 12:59 PM
Carlitos Way   Here's my experience as an entertainer for a f...   May 4 2008, 01:18 PM
SirAndy   Sounds like you're leaning toward a "pun...   May 4 2008, 03:16 PM
Jeffs9146   Hey Andy I currently own 2 bars in Hollywood! ...   May 4 2008, 06:23 PM
mel reckling   Over the years some of the one's I've seen...   May 5 2008, 08:00 AM
ericread   WOW! :beer2: I always knew that us teener ...   May 5 2008, 08:23 AM
brer   spend the money to keep the place clean man. I ra...   May 5 2008, 11:18 AM
Jeffs9146   I agree! We covered our floors with Aircraft...   May 5 2008, 01:24 PM
9146986   :agree: I've been in my share of clubs (in a...   May 6 2008, 01:05 PM
SirAndy   meeting with the owner today ... looks like this m...   May 9 2008, 12:18 PM
dw914er   if you ever need some entertainment for it, let me...   May 9 2008, 12:27 PM
Jeffs9146   This is what I was refering to! Our problem ...   May 9 2008, 01:54 PM
sean_v8_914   GO FOR IT!!! SHOULDA, COULDA, WOULDA, ...   May 9 2008, 11:02 PM
SirAndy   well, the ball is rolling ... met with the owner y...   May 10 2008, 01:36 PM
Marty Yeoman   well, the ball is rolling ... it looks like it...   May 13 2008, 02:07 PM
ericread   Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... When's the ...   May 10 2008, 09:02 PM
effutuo101   Cool! Glad to hear it Andy! Time to book R...   May 13 2008, 03:28 PM
SirAndy   working away with the lawyers and certain governme...   May 15 2008, 02:32 PM
ChrisReale   Drop me a line if you need any help getting things...   May 15 2008, 04:24 PM


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