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Wanna9146
post Jul 14 2008, 10:10 PM
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I read on this forum recently about someone swapping out their proportioning valve for a "T" fitting.

Does anyone know the size/thread count of the correct "T" fitting? Any fabrication required?
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post Jul 14 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(smg914 @ Jul 14 2008, 09:47 PM) *

You can also purchase the same "T" fitting at your local VW parts and accessories store for about half the price of the Porsche dealer. The last time I purchased one at a VW store I paid $7.00 for it.

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I upgraded front brakes to BWM calipers and did this mod about 6 years ago. The originak reg is still in a zip lock.
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post Jul 14 2008, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Krieger914 @ Jul 14 2008, 08:51 PM) *

I upgraded front brakes to BWM calipers and did this mod about 6 years ago. The originak reg is still in a zip lock.


I don't need to do the BMW caliper conversion for this to work, right?

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post Jul 15 2008, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(Wanna9146 @ Jul 15 2008, 12:55 AM) *

QUOTE(Krieger914 @ Jul 14 2008, 08:51 PM) *

I upgraded front brakes to BWM calipers and did this mod about 6 years ago. The originak reg is still in a zip lock.


I don't need to do the BMW caliper conversion for this to work, right?


Well, in reality yes.

In any car you want a bias towards the front brakes for safety.
When you stand hard on the brakes, a considerable amount of weight is transfered to the front of the car.
This has the affect of raising the rear of the car.
70% of your braking should be done by the front brakes and that is how the stock proportioning valve is setup to work.
Its how all cars are setup and its why you wear out front brakes alot faster than rear brakes.
If you put larger brakes up front, you can create the same affect and thus you can use the t-fitting.

Currently our brakes are not designed this way, so the proportioning valve delivers more pressure to the front brakes and creates the 70-30 split.

There is a very good chance that in an emergency braking situation you will loose control of the rear of the car if you have stock brakes and no proportioning valve.
These cars spin like tops once the rear lets loose, and with such low HP, there is little chance to power your way back straight again.

The stock system is designed very well, and the Proportioning valve is a simple piston/spring that has few moving parts.
They are tough to learn how to bleed through, but once you learn that, its a simple system. The t-fitting makes bleeding the brakes alot easier, but in relaity, how often do you really bleed your brakes??

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post Jul 15 2008, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 15 2008, 07:25 AM) *
The stock system is designed very well, and the Proportioning valve is a simple piston/spring that has few moving parts.
They are tough to learn how to bleed through, but once you learn that, its a simple system. The t-fitting makes bleeding the brakes alot easier, but in relaity, how often do you really bleed your brakes??

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That's the problem I'm having now. I'm planning ahead in anticipation of the proportioning valve being DOA. The car has been sitting for 15 yrs.
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Wanna9146   Swapping proportioning valve for "T" fitting...   Jul 14 2008, 10:10 PM
ClayPerrine   I read on this forum recently about someone swapp...   Jul 14 2008, 10:34 PM
smg914   You can also purchase the same "T" fitti...   Jul 14 2008, 10:47 PM
Krieger914   You can also purchase the same "T" fitt...   Jul 14 2008, 10:51 PM
Wanna9146   I upgraded front brakes to BWM calipers and did ...   Jul 14 2008, 10:55 PM
r_towle   I upgraded front brakes to BWM calipers and did...   Jul 15 2008, 09:25 AM
Wanna9146   The stock system is designed very well, and the Pr...   Jul 15 2008, 09:50 AM
Wanna9146   Would it be P/N 914.355.667.00 ?   Jul 14 2008, 10:54 PM
904svo   Where at in Ga. do you live? I have a spare T you ...   Jul 15 2008, 08:53 AM
Wanna9146   Where at in Ga. do you live? I have a spare T you...   Jul 15 2008, 09:48 AM
904svo   Where at in Ga. do you live? I have a spare T yo...   Jul 15 2008, 10:08 AM
Wanna9146   This T fitting was located in the front brake cir...   Jul 15 2008, 10:10 AM
brant   have fun spinning off the road backwards into the ...   Jul 15 2008, 09:43 AM
Wanna9146   have fun spinning off the road backwards into the...   Jul 15 2008, 09:51 AM
brant   have fun spinning off the road backwards into th...   Jul 15 2008, 11:01 PM
rhodyguy   i've never quite understood the reasoning for ...   Jul 15 2008, 09:54 AM
Wanna9146   i've never quite understood the reasoning for...   Jul 15 2008, 09:56 AM
rhodyguy   ok. what do you figure a known good used valve cos...   Jul 15 2008, 10:02 AM
Wanna9146   ok. what do you figure a known good used valve co...   Jul 15 2008, 10:06 AM
Wanna9146   ok. what do you figure a known good used valve co...   Jul 15 2008, 10:23 AM
rhodyguy   happy motoring. k   Jul 15 2008, 10:09 AM
Wanna9146   happy motoring. k If I do this swap, I'll ...   Jul 15 2008, 10:13 AM
SirAndy   Anyone taking bets that the car won't stop in...   Jul 15 2008, 01:19 PM
Wanna9146   Anyone taking bets that the car won't stop i...   Jul 15 2008, 08:15 PM
r_towle   The proportioning valve is really a simple piston ...   Jul 15 2008, 10:29 AM
Wanna9146   The proportioning valve is really a simple piston...   Jul 15 2008, 10:37 AM
davesprinkle   The proportioning valve is really a simple piston...   Jul 16 2008, 09:27 AM
brant   its emergency situations when the brakes will surp...   Jul 15 2008, 12:08 PM
sww914   I wouldn't automatically blame the proportioni...   Jul 15 2008, 12:55 PM
Wanna9146   I wouldn't automatically blame the proportion...   Jul 15 2008, 08:13 PM
sww914   I wouldn't automatically blame the proportio...   Jul 15 2008, 08:23 PM
r_towle   The pedal is beyond "spongy". It goes a...   Jul 15 2008, 08:25 PM
Wanna9146   Thanks, I'll give this a shot. BUT Try this ...   Jul 15 2008, 09:25 PM
Lavanaut   People here are trying to help you out with real, ...   Jul 15 2008, 01:22 PM
jmill   After doing quite a bit of research on this topic ...   Jul 15 2008, 01:40 PM
Eric_Shea   Make sure your steering wheel is straight otherw...   Jul 15 2008, 08:41 PM
Wanna9146   Thanks Eric, but don't worry about the "T...   Jul 15 2008, 09:14 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Spongy brakes after rebuilding the calipers is a p...   Jul 15 2008, 09:02 PM
Wanna9146   If you go back and read, I only responded negative...   Jul 15 2008, 09:16 PM
904svo   Read this, It will explain the problems if you ins...   Jul 15 2008, 09:58 PM
Eric_Shea   Man I wish that article would go away but... it wo...   Jul 15 2008, 10:29 PM
70Sixter   Eric and brant both mentioned tapping on the p-val...   Jul 16 2008, 09:31 AM
rhodyguy   the adj valve is a SUPER idea! :headbanger: b...   Jul 16 2008, 09:41 AM
roadster fan   the adj valve is a SUPER idea! :headbanger: ...   Jul 16 2008, 03:37 PM
Eric_Shea   Dave, did you get it working the way you'd lik...   Jul 16 2008, 10:22 AM
SlackeR32   I don't mean to hijack, but since everyone is ...   Jul 16 2008, 10:32 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I have a T fiting in mine. What should I have? I...   Jul 16 2008, 06:19 PM
Eric_Shea   You have what are called "Wide A-Calipers...   Jul 16 2008, 08:11 PM
davesprinkle   (...lots of insightful braking stuff truncated h...   Jul 17 2008, 10:26 AM
SlackeR32   Thank you Eric! I was a bit confused at fir...   Jul 17 2008, 01:03 PM
6freak   You have what are called "Wide A-Calipers...   Jul 17 2008, 02:06 PM
Eric_Shea   The threaded adjust rod simply rests against a h...   Jul 17 2008, 07:34 PM


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