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SirAndy
post Jul 22 2007, 06:34 PM
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So, after having had the pleasure to drive this beautiful, unmolested, all original, 37k miles 914-6 today, i can't help but wonder if we should attempt to list all the differences between an early /6 and early /4 in terms of originality.

I believe it would be of tremendous help to have a list of things "to look for" when doing a PPI on such a time-capsule.

What do ya'all think?
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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 23 2007, 03:27 PM) *

antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask?


It appears that most early 914s, /4 or /6, had a radio/antenna installed by the dealer. I can't remember seing an original early car that didn't have a Hirschman antenna, if one was installed. I'd imagine that the P+A dealer would be more likely to put a Blaupunkt or Becker radio in a /6, as opposed to the dealer installed Motorola that came in my /4.

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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Jul 23 2007, 04:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Jul 23 2007, 03:27 PM) *

antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask?


It appears that most early 914s, /4 or /6, had a radio/antenna installed by the dealer. I can't remember seing an original early car that didn't have a Hirschman antenna, if one was installed. I'd imagine that the P+A dealer would be more likely to put a Blaupunkt or Becker radio in a /6, as opposed to the dealer installed Motorola that came in my /4.

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My 1970 914-6 as no radio therefor no antenna no holes for it and the dash weave thingy is one solid piece from the colume too the glove box (no seams).One hole for the lighter and a square hole for the heater controls. I heard that was rare??(IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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QUOTE(6freak @ May 12 2008, 10:52 AM) *
My 1970 914-6 as no radio therefor no antenna no holes for it and the dash weave thingy is one solid piece from the colume too the glove box (no seams).One hole for the lighter and a square hole for the heater controls. I heard that was rare??


I don't know how rare it is, but my /6 also apparently never had a radio. It's as you describe and the speaker boxes are empty.

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My 1970 914-6 as no radio therefor no antenna no holes for it and the dash weave thingy is one solid piece from the colume too the glove box (no seams).One hole for the lighter and a square hole for the heater controls. I heard that was rare??


I don't know how rare it is, but my /6 also apparently never had a radio. It's as you describe and the speaker boxes are empty.

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Speaker box`s are empty on mine as well .....and the steering wheel is not strait (as in square with the dash)its got something to do with the 911 steering column.And the real 70 six`s have a windshield washer pump.Not the spear tire air pressure supply! at least mine does and it works
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QUOTE(6freak @ Jul 23 2008, 11:14 AM) *

and the steering wheel is not strait (as in square with the dash)its got something to do with the 911 steering column.

*not* specific to the /6 ... all 914 steering columns are mounted in a slight angle ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 25 2008, 01:11 PM) *


*not* specific to the /6 ... all 914 steering columns are mounted in a slight angle ...
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Sir Andy is correct, the top of the instrument cowl is not parallel to the steering wheel plane.


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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Jul 25 2008, 06:47 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 25 2008, 01:11 PM) *


*not* specific to the /6 ... all 914 steering columns are mounted in a slight angle ...
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Sir Andy is correct, the top of the instrument cowl is not parallel to the steering wheel plane.


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Maybe its the car thats crooked and the steering wheel is strait (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Next ? what about the washer pump i know some had it supplyed by the spare tire..And i dont think my dash is leather i think its the same material as the door panels and the rear fire wall pad?? Thanks for being UP on the wheel Andy ..soda speak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(6freak @ Jul 29 2008, 07:41 AM) *

what about the washer pump


Washer Pump is /6 only ...

Tech TIP of the day: Don't pay stupendous prices for an original 914/6 washer pump. A 911 washer pump from the same period looks surprisingly similar to the /6 pump at a fraction of the cost ...

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 29 2008, 04:32 PM) *

Tech TIP of the day: Don't pay stupendous prices for an original 914/6 washer pump. A 911 washer pump from the same period looks surprisingly similar to the /6 pump at a fraction of the cost ...

I believe the VW Rabbit also used a similar pump. I picked up a few while working as a VW parts jockey back about 1985.
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SirAndy   Alright, let's talk 914-6 ...   Jul 22 2007, 06:34 PM
SirAndy   i'll start ... :D - it should have a flat /...   Jul 22 2007, 06:40 PM
Johny Blackstain   i'll start ... :D - it should have a flat ...   Jul 22 2007, 07:30 PM
Jasfsmith   i'll start ... :D - different center conso...   Jul 23 2007, 12:03 PM
BS Chairman   [quote name='SirAndy' post='926710' date='Jul 22 ...   Jul 23 2007, 12:14 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   [quote name='SirAndy' post='926710' date='Jul 22...   Jul 23 2007, 01:35 PM
JMKnight   :) :) i'll start ... :D - it should have ...   Nov 22 2011, 08:39 AM
orthobiz   No plastic drip pan under engine cover. Paul   Jul 22 2007, 07:42 PM
SirAndy   No plastic drip pan under engine cover. good one...   Jul 22 2007, 09:39 PM
BS Chairman   Tool kit Steel wheels - 6/10solts 4/8solts Dash to...   Jul 22 2007, 07:49 PM
SirAndy   Tool kit - what are the differences? Steel wheels...   Jul 22 2007, 09:43 PM
Johny Blackstain   Tool kit - what are the differences? tool kit f...   Jul 22 2007, 09:58 PM
Pat Garvey   The pass side dogbones were an option on early fou...   Jul 22 2007, 08:08 PM
BS Chairman   Steel wheels Yellow 914/6-1970 Gary   Jul 23 2007, 08:50 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Headliner or not for the 6 or 4 ? Gary My ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:38 AM
Johny Blackstain   antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask? BTW: p...   Jul 23 2007, 05:27 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask? It ap...   Jul 23 2007, 05:40 PM
Johny Blackstain   It appears that most early 914s, /4 or /6, had a ...   Jul 23 2007, 06:11 PM
6freak   antenna = radio? What kind if I may ask? It a...   May 12 2008, 09:52 AM
smontanaro   My 1970 914-6 as no radio therefor no antenna no h...   Jul 12 2008, 06:29 AM
6freak   My 1970 914-6 as no radio therefor no antenna no ...   Jul 23 2008, 01:14 PM
SirAndy   and the steering wheel is not strait (as in squar...   Jul 25 2008, 03:11 PM
6freak   and the steering wheel is not strait (as in squa...   Jul 25 2008, 03:30 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   *not* specific to the /6 ... all 914 steering co...   Jul 25 2008, 07:47 PM
SirAndy   Sir Andy is correct, the top of the instrument co...   Jul 28 2008, 05:23 PM
6freak   *not* specific to the /6 ... all 914 steering c...   Jul 29 2008, 09:41 AM
SirAndy   what about the washer pump Washer Pump is /6 onl...   Jul 29 2008, 06:32 PM
6freak   what about the washer pump Washer Pump is /6 on...   Jul 30 2008, 08:21 AM
davep   Tech TIP of the day: Don't pay stupendous pri...   Aug 8 2008, 02:39 PM
mikey   You can't see them, but the 914-6 rear axles a...   Jul 23 2007, 11:42 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   Hi guys, I have a serious question. :popcorn: ...   Jul 24 2007, 10:22 PM
Gustl   Hi guys, I have a serious question. :popcorn: ...   Jul 25 2007, 12:12 AM
Thomas J Bliznik   Hi guys, I have a serious question. :popcorn: ...   Jul 25 2007, 06:14 AM
Lawrence   The shift linkage cover (a small boxy looking thin...   Jul 25 2007, 12:54 AM
mikey   I've been told that the original interior mirr...   Jul 25 2007, 01:09 AM
Gustl   I've been told that the original interior mir...   Jul 25 2007, 01:52 AM
mikey   I've been told that the original interior mi...   Jul 25 2007, 02:17 AM
mikey   I've been told that the original interior mi...   Jul 26 2007, 08:45 PM
Gustl   o.k. - now it's clear to me as you know, the...   Jul 25 2007, 07:40 AM
Thomas J Bliznik   o.k. - now it's clear to me as you know, th...   Jul 25 2007, 10:30 AM
Gustl   Hi Gustl. You are correct, this is really a 1970 ...   Jul 25 2007, 12:14 PM
davep   The VIN is the true indicator of the model year. D...   Jul 26 2007, 02:37 PM
Pat Garvey   It is so refreshing to see the six people come out...   Jul 26 2007, 08:37 PM
sixerdon   OK Guys, I'm back after a long absence. I can ...   Jul 26 2007, 09:22 PM
xsurfer   I believe there is a rubber "anti bump" ...   Jul 29 2007, 10:56 PM
McMark   Anti-bump rubber was for all early rain try models...   Jul 29 2007, 11:20 PM
davep   The north american cars have the VIN on a plate in...   Aug 24 2007, 08:44 PM
SirAndy   There was also the hump in the rear trunk if you ...   Aug 24 2007, 10:14 PM
Pat Garvey   The north american cars have the VIN on a plate i...   Sep 19 2007, 08:00 PM
davep   Yeah, yeah. But show me a 914/4 Sportomatic, PLEA...   Aug 25 2007, 08:25 AM
T H O M A S   i looked at 4 914/6 and they all had the hole for ...   Sep 4 2007, 08:23 PM
T H O M A S   the /6 drive shaft has less splines,left is /4 ,ri...   Sep 4 2007, 08:25 PM
T H O M A S   /6 cv has a notch ,left is /4 right is /6   Sep 4 2007, 08:27 PM
T H O M A S   transmission case on the /6 has a 911 #,same case ...   Sep 4 2007, 08:29 PM
T H O M A S   the hump is missing on /6 rear calipers ,left is /...   Sep 4 2007, 10:17 PM
6freak   the hump is missing on /6 rear calipers ,left is ...   May 12 2008, 09:55 AM
MoveQik   Ignition key location?   Sep 19 2007, 05:38 PM
sixerdon   Ignition key location? Yes, indeed. The ignitio...   Sep 19 2007, 07:28 PM
mel reckling   Ignition key location? Yes, indeed. The igniti...   May 12 2008, 08:26 AM
6freak   [quote name='sixerdon' post='947842' date='Sep 19...   Jun 10 2008, 03:11 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   How can you tell thats a 72-6 i sure cant :confu...   Jun 10 2008, 03:28 PM
Lavanaut   Didn't see that anyone had yet mentioned the f...   Jun 10 2008, 02:02 PM
davep   Didn't see that anyone had yet mentioned the ...   Jun 11 2008, 10:37 AM
dug   There are some more minor front suspension differe...   Jun 26 2009, 09:55 PM
70Sixter   Try RoadGlue. There is a lot of historical info. ...   Jun 10 2008, 02:35 PM
carr914   Engine lid had smaller diameter (lighter) torsion ...   Jun 13 2008, 09:15 PM
Eric_Shea   Only the later -4's (73-76) had double bleed...   Jun 13 2008, 10:23 PM
Eric_Shea   Only the later -4's (73-76) had "hub-ce...   Jun 13 2008, 10:24 PM
6freak   Only the later -4's (73-76) had "hub-c...   Jun 20 2008, 02:52 PM
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6freak   A rotor with a circular ridge to center the fro...   Jun 24 2008, 03:39 PM
mikez   OK, two questions....leather was the 914/6 dash......   Jul 26 2008, 10:08 AM
Gustl   Also, 15x5.5 inch wheels...what's the stock t...   Jul 26 2008, 10:47 AM
mikey   OK, two questions....leather was the 914/6 dash.....   Jul 26 2008, 11:50 AM
mikez   Yer kidding? That's what they used on the 4.5...   Jul 26 2008, 10:56 AM
Gustl   Yer kidding? That's what they used on the 4....   Jul 26 2008, 12:43 PM
Gustl   BTW, if in Germany does the TUV require stock siz...   Jul 26 2008, 12:47 PM
mikez   Thanks Gustl.....I meant on the 356 models with 4....   Jul 26 2008, 12:58 PM
Gustl   you can see it at this photo (Tapiro = 914-6)   Jul 29 2008, 01:17 AM
johannes   Don't pay stupendous prices for an original ...   Jul 31 2008, 01:34 PM
Justin Fischer   Anyone mentioned the shift linkage differences bet...   Aug 4 2008, 03:30 PM
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