The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
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The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
Pat Garvey |
Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Ok, this is my 3000th post. I saved this one because of how Porsche has delivered us "stalwarts" to unneccesary and even "backwoods".
Those of us who own classic 911's and 914's do most of our own work. Why, because the cars are relatively simple. Buy some books & tools - you can do most anything. About 10 years ago Porsche lost me. They became too complicated to handle for a mere bean counter. Just recently, I read an article about a 30 year member of PCA who bought a Cayman S,took it to the PCA Parade, and didn't know how to make the engine compartment visible for concours judging (He f_ing won!). Of course it was brand new! Wow, what a devastating win! My point is - Porsches have become too complicated. Am I a fogey - bet your ass! I don't want 300 dollar oil changes & transmission complexities that are meant for the track. I want relative simplicity. I'm pushing retirement (well, actually I retired 5 years ago). I envisioned a 914/6GT or a 911RS as my retirement present to myself. or, just maybe a GT2. They've all priced themselves to levels that I don't want to commit to. May still happen. But, my biggest problem is that Porsche, in my opinion is NOT Porcshe anymore They want us to "lease" every 4-5 years . The current management does not care about the Porscephiles that made them successful. They are not much different than GM or Ford. Yes, Porsche makles an excellent car, but one that any idiot can drive well. Everything that made a Porsche a car to be mastered has been removed/replaced by electronics. Porsche is way too concerned with making money ( I wouldn't bitch if I could only buy some stock) and taking control of VW (why?) Shouldn't they me trying for another entry level Porsche? Say, something around $28K, that an idiot like me could maintain? Nope, they've sold us out! Yep, I'm pissed! Pat ps: Happy 3000th post to me! |
scotty b |
Aug 18 2008, 07:20 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
MAZDAS RULE !!!!
(IMG:http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/scotb/2fast202furious20S2000.jpg) I actually agree with Pat. Sorry Andy but Porsche IS NOT what it used to be. It USED to be a sports car. Yes they sdtill make a sports car but it USED to be EVERY Porsche was a dportd car. Bare bones driving. Now they have cup holders, GPS, power everything. I have said for yaers I'd love to see Porsche build a bare bones car again. It would sell. Gauranteed. A real manual transmission, with linkage and a shift LEVER, 250-300 H.P., 2 seats, minor carpeting NO insulation, Manual steering, MAYBE A.C., MAYBE power windows and a radio. Nothing else, just pure driving pleasure. I'd buy it. |
turboman808 |
Aug 18 2008, 08:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
I actually agree with Pat. Sorry Andy but Porsche IS NOT what it used to be. It USED to be a sports car. Yes they sdtill make a sports car but it USED to be EVERY Porsche was a dportd car. Bare bones driving. Now they have cup holders, GPS, power everything. I have said for yaers I'd love to see Porsche build a bare bones car again. It would sell. Gauranteed. A real manual transmission, with linkage and a shift LEVER, 250-300 H.P., 2 seats, minor carpeting NO insulation, Manual steering, MAYBE A.C., MAYBE power windows and a radio. Nothing else, just pure driving pleasure. I'd buy it. I would absolutely love if they made a 550 spyder to take on the lotus exige. lightweight 4 banger making 300 hp would be sick!!! Of course they don't so when I want one I will have to get a beck spyder. Which is the way you are gonna have to go to enjoy the tradition but in a new car. It's all about pleasing the lowest common denominator now. I didn't grow up with classic cars really. I just happen to have found I am very fond of cars pre 1974. The lines, the way they drive(well some of them). |
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