The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
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The new 911 s/Carerra, OT, but I need to vent |
Pat Garvey |
Aug 17 2008, 09:40 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Ok, this is my 3000th post. I saved this one because of how Porsche has delivered us "stalwarts" to unneccesary and even "backwoods".
Those of us who own classic 911's and 914's do most of our own work. Why, because the cars are relatively simple. Buy some books & tools - you can do most anything. About 10 years ago Porsche lost me. They became too complicated to handle for a mere bean counter. Just recently, I read an article about a 30 year member of PCA who bought a Cayman S,took it to the PCA Parade, and didn't know how to make the engine compartment visible for concours judging (He f_ing won!). Of course it was brand new! Wow, what a devastating win! My point is - Porsches have become too complicated. Am I a fogey - bet your ass! I don't want 300 dollar oil changes & transmission complexities that are meant for the track. I want relative simplicity. I'm pushing retirement (well, actually I retired 5 years ago). I envisioned a 914/6GT or a 911RS as my retirement present to myself. or, just maybe a GT2. They've all priced themselves to levels that I don't want to commit to. May still happen. But, my biggest problem is that Porsche, in my opinion is NOT Porcshe anymore They want us to "lease" every 4-5 years . The current management does not care about the Porscephiles that made them successful. They are not much different than GM or Ford. Yes, Porsche makles an excellent car, but one that any idiot can drive well. Everything that made a Porsche a car to be mastered has been removed/replaced by electronics. Porsche is way too concerned with making money ( I wouldn't bitch if I could only buy some stock) and taking control of VW (why?) Shouldn't they me trying for another entry level Porsche? Say, something around $28K, that an idiot like me could maintain? Nope, they've sold us out! Yep, I'm pissed! Pat ps: Happy 3000th post to me! |
Brian Mifsud |
Aug 18 2008, 08:49 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
I don't contribute very often, but I've been reading the site for years, and have owned Porsches since '87. I understand and appreciate the comments Pat said. I remember distinctly having the same thoughts in the late 80's as I viewed the new 911s at the show and marveled over the futuristic "electronic fuel injection, Mass Air flow style"...
The thing is.. Porsche's evolution and higher levels of complexity are not any different than the rest of the market. My lowly Honda has variable valve timing which was totally unheard of until the mid 80's and then only on the "high end" cars. It really is a marvel to see that most any front wheel drive sedan built today will totally outperform and bury any late 60's muscle car, drag strip, handling, etc. Once you get into your 'Groove' where you learned your way in and out of any 914 or 60s-70s-early80's 911 you get into a comfort zone. The introduction of microprocessors and the complex mechanical systems they allow takes a great deal of work and training to "stay on top of"... not may people take comfort in doing that.. |
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