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jmill
post Oct 16 2008, 01:02 PM
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I've got a 73 17. and a 2.0. I can't afford a Raby 2270 now but until then I want the best bang I can get for the buck. A stock engine won't work for me. What is the cheapest way to upgrade without breaking the bank? Which block do I start with? I can toss about $2,000 at it. Can I build a stroker for that kind of money? Would I be better to build a small displacement rever? What p/c's do I go with? Thanks in advance guys.
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post Oct 16 2008, 02:24 PM
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$2000... not gonna happen with a type IV. maybe if you've been into them for sometime and have parts laying around or if you shop around and score some 96mm's or webers cheap. it can be done i guess but if you knew exactly what you wanted and fell into a few big ticket items for cheap. you'd be best off to find a members slightly used 2056, they do come up. or just stick the 2k away for the one you really want.

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post Oct 16 2008, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Oct 16 2008, 12:24 PM) *

$2000... not gonna happen with a type IV. maybe if you've been into them for sometime and have parts laying around or if you shop around and score some 96mm's or webers cheap. it can be done i guess but if you knew exactly what you wanted and fell into a few big ticket items for cheap. you'd be best off to find a members slightly used 2056, they do come up. or just stick the 2k away for the one you really want.

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I think it could be done... but I assumed that induction/ignition/exhaust were not included in the budget.

Some quick shopping:
96mm AA Piston/cylinder set on eBay - $259
Web #86b - $150
Web Cam Gear - $35
Web Lifters - $140
Main/Rod/Cam Bearings - $62
Gaskets/Seals - $92

$738

Machine work estimates:
Mag & Grind crank $200
Recondition rods $100
Valve job/seats/guides $600

$900

That leaves $362 for valves, springs, nuts, bolts, whatever.

For $150 over the cost of the Web cam and lifters, you could get a Raby basic valvetrain and a set of chromoly pushrods, use the 1.7 rockers, and still have $200 for other stuff.

This also assumes that between the 1.7 and the 2.0 there are enough re-usable ancillary parts to make the build work... oil cooler, etc.

Am I way off? If induction is needed, add a set of ICTs for $400, or a used set of IDFs for $600. Over budget, but still not bad...

Admittedly, it will not be the highest quality build that the world has ever seen... but it would beat the crap out of sitting on jackstands.

I'm tempted to go this route myself just to get my car on the road, and then continue to build my 2258 as a replacement. We'll see what the springtime brings...
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jmill   Engine Suggestions   Oct 16 2008, 01:02 PM
Todd Enlund   I've got a 73 17. and a 2.0. I can't aff...   Oct 16 2008, 01:14 PM
Chris Hamilton   As far as I have seen, the best bang for your buck...   Oct 16 2008, 01:15 PM
orange914   $2000... not gonna happen with a type IV. ma...   Oct 16 2008, 02:24 PM
Todd Enlund   $2000... not gonna happen with a type IV. m...   Oct 16 2008, 03:26 PM
davep   With that kind of a budget, I'd do much as I a...   Oct 16 2008, 03:06 PM
toon1   Are both the 1.7 and 2.0 in running condition? ...   Oct 16 2008, 03:18 PM
SirAndy   I've got a 73 17. and a 2.0. I can't aff...   Oct 16 2008, 03:48 PM
jmill   You were right Todd thats 2k just for the engine. ...   Oct 16 2008, 05:14 PM
Todd Enlund   You were right Todd thats 2k just for the engine....   Oct 16 2008, 05:37 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I have two sets of typically used 2.0 heads at the...   Oct 16 2008, 05:28 PM
904svo   Talk to Jake, ever now and then some body backs ou...   Oct 16 2008, 05:52 PM
jmill   Thanks for all the info guys. I think I know what...   Oct 17 2008, 07:34 AM
carr914   Run the existing engines and save your money till ...   Oct 17 2008, 08:02 AM
Mark Henry   Guys wanting engines done on the cheap is just ano...   Oct 17 2008, 08:16 AM
jmill   Sorry to hear your getting out of the engine busin...   Oct 17 2008, 02:51 PM
sww914   I think that here can be a happy balance between l...   Oct 17 2008, 05:11 PM
749142   Well, with my experience i built a couple 2056s an...   Oct 18 2008, 12:44 AM
sww914   749142, I agree with you. The point of my whole po...   Oct 18 2008, 01:06 AM
DBCooper   You're right. When you build your own engines...   Oct 18 2008, 07:02 AM
sww914   That's why I don't scuff & squirt peop...   Oct 18 2008, 01:01 PM
749142   sww914. thats true. i thought you were saying neve...   Oct 19 2008, 12:59 AM
Jake Raby   More skill is required when building an engine wit...   Oct 19 2008, 11:34 AM
azbill   More skill is required when building an engine wi...   Oct 19 2008, 06:37 PM
Jake Raby   I have no idea!   Oct 19 2008, 06:53 PM
jmill   It can be done right without breaking the bank. I...   Oct 20 2008, 08:04 AM


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