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jonwatts
post Mar 27 2003, 12:07 AM
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Boo-hoo, Al Jazeera hit with DDOS attacks. Yahoo! News
I love the idea of a sweaty Iraqi IT guy pulling his hair out.

And here's an article with information on how to send troops email, care packages, and long-distance phone cards:
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Don Wohlfarth
post Mar 27 2003, 06:12 PM
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Andy, respect your views on being anti-war. Too bad you didn't stop there.
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QUOTE (URY914 @ Mar 27 2003, 01:41 PM)
Haven't we been over this before?
If not the U.S.A., than who will?
If not now, when?
yes, we have
who?
the UN, of course ...
when?
leave that up to the UN ...

The UN had a resolution in Oct? that was a follow up to a resolution at the end of the Gulf War about inspectors. Saddam threw out the inspectors doing their job per the 1st resolution, the follow up resolution put inspectors back into Iraq.
What did the UN do in the 12 years between res 1 and 2?
There are 189 countries that belong to the UN, each members vote counts as much as the next one. Is that relevant? If so, how come 3rd world countries get special treatment such as exemptions for global warming? Why are 5 countries permanent members of the security council?
Granted, Bush became frustrated with the process and announced the US would present another resolution requiring the UN to enforce its early resolutions. France, that well known world power, announced that it would veto ANY resolution that the US submitted. Bush drew a line in the sand and here we are.
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so, you think because america is #1 you can just go
around and invade other countries whenever you
feel like it? sure, it's not PC, but hey, we're #1, so what?

Understand this completely. World was a "little" more stable when there was another superpower but US went head to head with Russia over missiles in Cuba.
The short version is the US has been forced to become the worlds police man, a job no other country wants or can afford. The US economy drives the world.
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and what does 9/11 have to do with the war on iraq?

This was a terrorist attack on US homeland that killed around 3,000, most of them Americans. Bush declared war on terrorism and went into Afganistan after the perpetrators, Saddam was next on his list.
The US is the most forgiving country in the world. After WWII the Marshall Plan "loaned" money to devastated countries starting with Japan and Germany. Neither seems to be doing to badly today. BTW not a penny of those loans were ever repaid, just forgiven.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) Get off your high horse. The US has tried to work with the UN. Yeah, we've got a fucked up attitude when it comes to dealing with outlaw nations but at least we elected our leaders.
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jonwatts   [NPC] War Stories   Mar 27 2003, 12:07 AM
rick 918-S   Did you hear the Iraqi guy whining to the U.N. tod...   Mar 27 2003, 12:28 AM
vortrex   that UN guy is really annoying. I like how he sai...   Mar 27 2003, 01:27 AM
Brad Roberts   And people are protesting this war.... I dont get ...   Mar 27 2003, 01:39 AM
vortrex   I especially like how iraqi fighters are now drivi...   Mar 27 2003, 02:07 AM
campbellcj   I also heard today that, according to Amnesty Inte...   Mar 27 2003, 02:24 AM
Brad Roberts   Thanks to Digital cable I can watch NON American w...   Mar 27 2003, 03:21 AM
AlexO   I admit that its hard not to pay attention, but iI...   Mar 27 2003, 06:18 AM
Bruce Allert   :angry: Where were all these thousands of protest...   Mar 27 2003, 08:35 AM
URY914   Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the wo...   Mar 27 2003, 09:33 AM
Brad Roberts   Cool. A Marine on the list (I think LB is ARMY) No...   Mar 27 2003, 01:35 PM
GWN7   You guys missed the one where it is reported that ...   Mar 27 2003, 02:46 PM
seanery   My brother was telling me about a video he saw whe...   Mar 27 2003, 03:04 PM
SirAndy   blah blah blah ... people (like me) that are agai...   Mar 27 2003, 03:32 PM
URY914   Haven't we been over this before? If not the...   Mar 27 2003, 03:41 PM
tmp914   I dont think there is anymore "international law" ...   Mar 27 2003, 03:46 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 03:51 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 03:53 PM
URY914   We get to take care of several problems when we ta...   Mar 27 2003, 04:03 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 04:23 PM
James Adams   You see, Andy, whether or not there are hidden age...   Mar 27 2003, 04:33 PM
James Adams  
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URY914   I have never voted for anyone in the UN. It's ...   Mar 27 2003, 04:35 PM
Brad Roberts   The UN is a bunch of washed up politicians with no...   Mar 27 2003, 04:39 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm happy we have people like Andy around. Oth...   Mar 27 2003, 04:46 PM
vortrex   I love it when US residents support saddam and his...   Mar 27 2003, 04:50 PM
jonwatts   Chistopher Walken on Saturday Night Live as French...   Mar 27 2003, 04:52 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 04:58 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 04:59 PM
vortrex   where in my post did I mention your name? can you...   Mar 27 2003, 05:03 PM
SirAndy   ...   Mar 27 2003, 05:04 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 05:05 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 05:09 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 05:19 PM
jonwatts   <...   Mar 27 2003, 05:39 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 06:05 PM
silver six   I'm With Andy He yells too loudly but I'm...   Mar 27 2003, 06:10 PM
Don Wohlfarth   Andy, respect your views on being anti-war. Too ba...   Mar 27 2003, 06:12 PM
joea9146   A good thread to add this: 22 March 2003 With o...   Mar 27 2003, 06:16 PM
Brad Roberts   Don, I want to thank you. Good post with good inf...   Mar 27 2003, 06:20 PM
silver six   I won't defend the U.N. That debate is a red ...   Mar 27 2003, 06:37 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 06:41 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 06:49 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 06:52 PM
SirAndy   ...   Mar 27 2003, 06:58 PM
tracks914   Here is s question, would the US be in a war if th...   Mar 27 2003, 07:04 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 27 2003, 07:13 PM
bernbomb914   could it be the lack of action by the UN was becau...   Mar 27 2003, 07:24 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 09:07 PM
tracks914   Does anyone think Al Gore would be at war right no...   Mar 27 2003, 09:11 PM
seanery   Al Gore? Who the fuck is Al Gore? It's a dam...   Mar 27 2003, 09:26 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 27 2003, 09:32 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm scared. I think when we do make it to Bagh...   Mar 27 2003, 09:42 PM
Jeroen   Yep, Vietnam all over again... Could even be wor...   Mar 27 2003, 10:09 PM
seanery   Gore would have hid in a shed in TN, his home stat...   Mar 27 2003, 10:29 PM
mskala   <...   Mar 27 2003, 10:29 PM
rick 918-S   Hey! Al Gore invented the internet!(LOL) :...   Mar 28 2003, 12:28 AM
74GoKart   I agree that Saddam is a real fucker and should be...   Mar 28 2003, 03:25 AM
SirAndy   74GoKart :worship: thank you sir!   Mar 28 2003, 12:19 PM
silver six   It appears this war is not as black and white as t...   Mar 28 2003, 12:31 PM
tracks914   74GoKart Some else with knowledge, research and ...   Mar 28 2003, 03:05 PM
Brad Roberts   I have tried many times in the past to undo my "mi...   Mar 28 2003, 03:14 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 28 2003, 03:31 PM
r_towle   The scary part to me is that the UN was formed to ...   Mar 28 2003, 03:49 PM
SirAndy   74GoKart, this is exactly what i meant when i said...   Mar 28 2003, 03:56 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 28 2003, 04:17 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 28 2003, 06:37 PM
tracks914     Mar 28 2003, 07:23 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm thinking about adding a temporay WAR ROOM ...   Mar 28 2003, 07:26 PM
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