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jonwatts
post Mar 27 2003, 12:07 AM
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Boo-hoo, Al Jazeera hit with DDOS attacks. Yahoo! News
I love the idea of a sweaty Iraqi IT guy pulling his hair out.

And here's an article with information on how to send troops email, care packages, and long-distance phone cards:
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silver six
post Mar 27 2003, 06:37 PM
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I won't defend the U.N. That debate is a red herring. Their approval wouldn't have made the war right. Their dissapproval does not necessarily make it wrong.

Don Says: World was a "little" more stable when there was another superpower but US went head to head with Russia over missiles in Cuba.

This issue is tremendously off topic. But just for the record the Cuban missle crisis is an example of the most unstable periods in the world's history. There was never a time when we were closer to nuclear armageddon.

Don Says: The short version is the US has been forced to become the worlds police man, a job no other country wants or can afford.

Being the world's police man is not a bad thing if we're doing a good job of it. But up until now the police man has never set out a policy to "pre-emptively" attack any and all nations that we determine to possibly be a threat, maybe not now, but some time in the future. Bush's policy of pre-emption is one of the most destabalizing doctrines ever advanced by an American administration.

Don Says: The US economy drives the world.

Again this is entirely off topic. Whether our economy drives the world or not does not justify (or dejustify) waging war against another country. I've yet to hear no one, except the most crass pro-war protester suggest that because our economy drives the world, we get to invade who ever we want, bomb whoever we want, and drain oil from whomever we want.

Andy asks And what does 9/11 have to do with the war on iraq?

And Don responds: This was a terrorist attack on US homeland that killed around 3,000, most of them Americans. Bush declared war on terrorism and went into Afganistan after the perpetrators, Saddam was next on his list.

Still what does Saddam being on Bush's "list" have to do with 911? Again I challenge anyone to find a credible source linking 9/11 to Iraq. There is no link.

Don Says: The US is the most forgiving country in the world. After WWII the Marshall Plan "loaned" money to devastated countries starting with Japan and Germany. Neither seems to be doing to badly today. BTW not a penny of those loans were ever repaid, just forgiven

Again, totally off topic. We're not loaning Iraq money we're bombing her capital. Rebuilding Iraq after we destroy her will not look like Germany or Japan in ten or twenty or thirty years. See my previous post.

Don Says: Get off your high horse.

I don't have a horse; I drive a 914.

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jonwatts   [NPC] War Stories   Mar 27 2003, 12:07 AM
rick 918-S   Did you hear the Iraqi guy whining to the U.N. tod...   Mar 27 2003, 12:28 AM
vortrex   that UN guy is really annoying. I like how he sai...   Mar 27 2003, 01:27 AM
Brad Roberts   And people are protesting this war.... I dont get ...   Mar 27 2003, 01:39 AM
vortrex   I especially like how iraqi fighters are now drivi...   Mar 27 2003, 02:07 AM
campbellcj   I also heard today that, according to Amnesty Inte...   Mar 27 2003, 02:24 AM
Brad Roberts   Thanks to Digital cable I can watch NON American w...   Mar 27 2003, 03:21 AM
AlexO   I admit that its hard not to pay attention, but iI...   Mar 27 2003, 06:18 AM
Bruce Allert   :angry: Where were all these thousands of protest...   Mar 27 2003, 08:35 AM
URY914   Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the wo...   Mar 27 2003, 09:33 AM
Brad Roberts   Cool. A Marine on the list (I think LB is ARMY) No...   Mar 27 2003, 01:35 PM
GWN7   You guys missed the one where it is reported that ...   Mar 27 2003, 02:46 PM
seanery   My brother was telling me about a video he saw whe...   Mar 27 2003, 03:04 PM
SirAndy   blah blah blah ... people (like me) that are agai...   Mar 27 2003, 03:32 PM
URY914   Haven't we been over this before? If not the...   Mar 27 2003, 03:41 PM
tmp914   I dont think there is anymore "international law" ...   Mar 27 2003, 03:46 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 03:51 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 03:53 PM
URY914   We get to take care of several problems when we ta...   Mar 27 2003, 04:03 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 04:23 PM
James Adams   You see, Andy, whether or not there are hidden age...   Mar 27 2003, 04:33 PM
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URY914   I have never voted for anyone in the UN. It's ...   Mar 27 2003, 04:35 PM
Brad Roberts   The UN is a bunch of washed up politicians with no...   Mar 27 2003, 04:39 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm happy we have people like Andy around. Oth...   Mar 27 2003, 04:46 PM
vortrex   I love it when US residents support saddam and his...   Mar 27 2003, 04:50 PM
jonwatts   Chistopher Walken on Saturday Night Live as French...   Mar 27 2003, 04:52 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 04:58 PM
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vortrex   where in my post did I mention your name? can you...   Mar 27 2003, 05:03 PM
SirAndy   ...   Mar 27 2003, 05:04 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 05:05 PM
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jonwatts   <...   Mar 27 2003, 05:39 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 06:05 PM
silver six   I'm With Andy He yells too loudly but I'm...   Mar 27 2003, 06:10 PM
Don Wohlfarth   Andy, respect your views on being anti-war. Too ba...   Mar 27 2003, 06:12 PM
joea9146   A good thread to add this: 22 March 2003 With o...   Mar 27 2003, 06:16 PM
Brad Roberts   Don, I want to thank you. Good post with good inf...   Mar 27 2003, 06:20 PM
silver six   I won't defend the U.N. That debate is a red ...   Mar 27 2003, 06:37 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 06:41 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 06:49 PM
SirAndy     Mar 27 2003, 06:52 PM
SirAndy   ...   Mar 27 2003, 06:58 PM
tracks914   Here is s question, would the US be in a war if th...   Mar 27 2003, 07:04 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 27 2003, 07:13 PM
bernbomb914   could it be the lack of action by the UN was becau...   Mar 27 2003, 07:24 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 27 2003, 09:07 PM
tracks914   Does anyone think Al Gore would be at war right no...   Mar 27 2003, 09:11 PM
seanery   Al Gore? Who the fuck is Al Gore? It's a dam...   Mar 27 2003, 09:26 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 27 2003, 09:32 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm scared. I think when we do make it to Bagh...   Mar 27 2003, 09:42 PM
Jeroen   Yep, Vietnam all over again... Could even be wor...   Mar 27 2003, 10:09 PM
seanery   Gore would have hid in a shed in TN, his home stat...   Mar 27 2003, 10:29 PM
mskala   <...   Mar 27 2003, 10:29 PM
rick 918-S   Hey! Al Gore invented the internet!(LOL) :...   Mar 28 2003, 12:28 AM
74GoKart   I agree that Saddam is a real fucker and should be...   Mar 28 2003, 03:25 AM
SirAndy   74GoKart :worship: thank you sir!   Mar 28 2003, 12:19 PM
silver six   It appears this war is not as black and white as t...   Mar 28 2003, 12:31 PM
tracks914   74GoKart Some else with knowledge, research and ...   Mar 28 2003, 03:05 PM
Brad Roberts   I have tried many times in the past to undo my "mi...   Mar 28 2003, 03:14 PM
tracks914   <...   Mar 28 2003, 03:31 PM
r_towle   The scary part to me is that the UN was formed to ...   Mar 28 2003, 03:49 PM
SirAndy   74GoKart, this is exactly what i meant when i said...   Mar 28 2003, 03:56 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 28 2003, 04:17 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 28 2003, 06:37 PM
tracks914     Mar 28 2003, 07:23 PM
Brad Roberts   I'm thinking about adding a temporay WAR ROOM ...   Mar 28 2003, 07:26 PM
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