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stock93
post Dec 6 2008, 02:22 PM
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This pisses me off. I've bought a bunch of their pliers and really like most of them. I for one won't be buying them anymore. Now if I manage to break one they're going to give me a china made replacement. If anyone wants to send them feedback here's their page http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/contactUs.jhtml
I sent them a letter myself.

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post Dec 7 2008, 09:04 PM
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CRAP!

Why am I not surprised that Newell-Rubbermaid had something to do with this? They took the Rubbermaid name to China after the original US company (in Ohio, IIRC) went broke after getting involved with Walmart.

I remember getting into a pretty heated discussion with an AF Major I was working for--he couldn't understand why I would "waste" $$$ on US-made tools (Craftsman, Snap-on, MAC), when I could get Chinese-made tools for $ at Walmart. I told him if he ever had to actually use the tools he'd understand why . . . also told him it's people like him that would eventually keep even the people who know the difference from being able to get good tools--not to mention what it does to our country . . . .

Its not just the US either--recently I'm even seeing "made in China" on what used to be exclusively German products (Henckels knives, etc.). Seems like we're in a global race for the bottom . . . with cheapness crowding out quality at every turn.

Sorry, I'm down off my soapbox now . . . .

So, who did you send your e-mail(s) to?



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I'm even seeing "made in China" on what used to be exclusively German products ...

Yes most "Porche Design" non-automotive products come from China too.

On another note, there was a time when "made in Japan" meant it was crap. And Kia has moved upmarket aparently with some success too.

I think I would rather my money go to China than Suadi Arabia and Kuwait...
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stock93   Vise Grip moves to China   Dec 6 2008, 02:22 PM
URY914   Those guys need some hope and change fast. No mor...   Dec 6 2008, 03:24 PM
jd74914   I don't understand. My house has always used v...   Dec 6 2008, 03:30 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Letter sent. The market for used Vise Grip pliers...   Dec 6 2008, 04:39 PM
Garold Shaffer   I just sent a letter myself. Not that it will chan...   Dec 6 2008, 04:43 PM
Jake Raby   I just sent a letter myself. Not that it will cha...   Dec 8 2008, 07:33 PM
Dr Evil   Poverty/unemployment <_<   Dec 6 2008, 05:51 PM
jimtab   Poverty/unemployment <_< Debt, doc....we...   Dec 7 2008, 02:58 AM
blitZ   Poverty/unemployment <_< corruption...   Dec 7 2008, 12:50 PM
markb   Letter sent. :angry: Anybody know of a good alt...   Dec 6 2008, 07:23 PM
carr914   letter sent to those commy bastards   Dec 6 2008, 07:36 PM
Al Meredith   I too have sent an email. I have worked for two co...   Dec 6 2008, 07:57 PM
LarryR   Man that sucks. I am glad I own about a half dozen...   Dec 6 2008, 07:58 PM
stock93   Thanks for the response guys. The only alternative...   Dec 6 2008, 08:17 PM
GeorgeRud   Unfortunately, it takes a while for these companie...   Dec 6 2008, 09:08 PM
brer   throw out everything in your house that says made ...   Dec 7 2008, 03:29 AM
byndbad914   throw out everything in your house that says made...   Dec 7 2008, 07:15 PM
dbgriffith75   These days that's just about everything.... ...   Dec 7 2008, 08:32 AM
byndbad914   Where should we spend our economic stimulus money...   Dec 8 2008, 08:58 PM
BMartin914   This bites... Anytime I need a set of Vise-Grips,...   Dec 7 2008, 08:42 AM
Porsche Rescue   What we are seeing with the "global" eco...   Dec 7 2008, 11:11 AM
stock93   Another thing related to this that really gets me ...   Dec 7 2008, 11:26 AM
greenie   I've spent my entire career in manufacturing, ...   Dec 7 2008, 12:13 PM
spare time toys   Sending this out on the AMFA union web. :flag1:   Dec 7 2008, 12:35 PM
turnaround89   My first tool set was made in China, broke almost ...   Dec 7 2008, 01:42 PM
SirAndy   ... The best tools are made here in the US, no do...   Dec 7 2008, 02:32 PM
URY914   Anyone remember a few years back when Stanley was ...   Dec 7 2008, 02:39 PM
Grelber   Since 1865, Klein Tools are still made in the USA ...   Dec 7 2008, 02:47 PM
URY914   Klein tools are top notch.   Dec 7 2008, 05:35 PM
scotty   Maybe Leatherman could buy the patent (or design a...   Dec 7 2008, 05:53 PM
jimtab   Maybe Leatherman could buy the patent (or design ...   Dec 7 2008, 11:05 PM
anderssj   CRAP! Why am I not surprised that Newell-Rubb...   Dec 7 2008, 09:04 PM
SGB   I'm even seeing "made in China" on ...   Dec 7 2008, 09:44 PM
brer   CRAP! Why am I not surprised that Newell-Rub...   Dec 8 2008, 02:28 AM
Maltese Falcon   Try to find anything in Costco NOT made on mainlan...   Dec 7 2008, 09:27 PM
turnaround89   Never heard of Stahlville before, looks like good ...   Dec 7 2008, 11:27 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Never heard of Stahlville before, looks like good...   Dec 8 2008, 12:00 AM
Wilhelm   If the quality becomes these: http://www.harborfr...   Dec 8 2008, 01:42 AM
carr914   I broke a 1/4 Craftsman ratchet last week. Took it...   Dec 8 2008, 02:28 AM
jkeyzer   Be happy they aren't moving to India.   Dec 8 2008, 02:32 AM
michaelmoo   Found this on the net: Craftsman tools came under ...   Dec 8 2008, 06:16 AM
MrKona   Also have you ever seen a list of part by countr...   Dec 8 2008, 10:30 AM
Vacca Rabite   For good or ill, we are a global economy. Busines...   Dec 8 2008, 09:44 AM
MrKona   Too bad Vise-Grip can't have two lines, like S...   Dec 8 2008, 10:35 AM
brer   I bought some valves for a 912 said Germany on the...   Dec 8 2008, 10:47 AM
SirAndy   I bought some valves for a 912 said Germany on th...   Dec 8 2008, 02:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty   What ever happened to all those fondue sets SNL wa...   Dec 8 2008, 02:12 PM
byndbad914   another societal issue that plays into this is tha...   Dec 8 2008, 03:30 PM
anderssj   So our kids are being raised with the mentality ...   Dec 8 2008, 03:45 PM
byndbad914   I'm kind of lucky there . . . both of my kids...   Dec 8 2008, 05:01 PM
turboman808   I'll tell you something funny along the lines ...   Dec 8 2008, 07:52 PM
tod914   Nate, is your china made in china?   Dec 8 2008, 08:41 PM
SirAndy   Nate, is your china made in china? :rotfl:   Dec 8 2008, 08:54 PM
turboman808   Nate, is your china made in china? HAHA The sa...   Dec 8 2008, 11:39 PM
beech4rd   I bought some valves for a 912 said Germany on th...   Dec 8 2008, 10:41 PM
URY914   I only buy US made stuff at garage sales.   Dec 9 2008, 07:32 AM
hcdmueller   What happens is these younger people get their pa...   Dec 9 2008, 09:08 AM


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