Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Rear hub with 928 bearing and increased offset, 928 Hybrid trailing arm, 944 brakes, extended hub offset, parking brak
Wilhelm
post Aug 10 2008, 11:24 PM
Post #1


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 408
Joined: 7-September 07
From: Hooterville, OR
Member No.: 8,088
Region Association: None



Few pics of a project I'm working on to break up the misery or paint, bondo and rust removal on my V-8 SBC conversion. I'm going to do the sheridan body work on my car and found these wheels which I liked.

Attached Image
Attached Image

The problem is the wheels are 10 inches wide with an offset of 2 inches. In searching the web site it seems that most people with this combo have gone with 3" spacers. This seemed like it would put a lot of force on the bearing and I still would not have many other rear brake options. So.... I found some rear 928 hubs on ebay. the bearings are much larger: 85mm diameter and 47mm wide (versus stock 75mm diameter x 37mm long) and this would provide me with other 5 lug rear brake options. So off to the barn.



First, put a piece of 5 inch 1.25 inch wall DOM(Drawn Over Mandrel steel tubing) in the lathe.



Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
andys
post Aug 20 2008, 04:13 PM
Post #2


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,165
Joined: 21-May 03
From: Valencia, CA
Member No.: 721
Region Association: None



Wilhelm,

Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, thus the late post.

Nice work. Good to see someone thinking outside-the-box. I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Most think the 914 bearing is more than adequate, and the 911 bearing beyond most needs.

I went with the 911 bearing mostly because it matched the late 911 axles, and I also moved the bearing further outboard in order to fit my 6 speed transaxle. Much like your work, here are a couple of photos of what I did (BTW, I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into this kind of thing). I fabricated a custom trailing arm.

Andys


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image

Attached image(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ClayPerrine
post Aug 20 2008, 10:06 PM
Post #3


Life's been good to me so far.....
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 15,902
Joined: 11-September 03
From: Hurst, TX.
Member No.: 1,143
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



QUOTE(andys @ Aug 20 2008, 05:13 PM) *

Wilhelm,

Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, thus the late post.

Nice work. Good to see someone thinking outside-the-box. I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Most think the 914 bearing is more than adequate, and the 911 bearing beyond most needs.

I went with the 911 bearing mostly because it matched the late 911 axles, and I also moved the bearing further outboard in order to fit my 6 speed transaxle. Much like your work, here are a couple of photos of what I did (BTW, I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into this kind of thing). I fabricated a custom trailing arm.

Andys


From experience...


Junk the Wilwood spot caliper. If you set the brake when the rotor is hot, after it cools it won't release. You will end up beating the shit out of the caliper trying to get the park brake off.


User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
burton73
post Dec 8 2008, 11:28 PM
Post #4


burton73
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,676
Joined: 2-January 07
From: Los Angeles
Member No.: 7,414
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 20 2008, 08:06 PM) *

QUOTE(andys @ Aug 20 2008, 05:13 PM) *

Wilhelm,

Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, thus the late post.

Nice work. Good to see someone thinking outside-the-box. I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Most think the 914 bearing is more than adequate, and the 911 bearing beyond most needs.

I went with the 911 bearing mostly because it matched the late 911 axles, and I also moved the bearing further outboard in order to fit my 6 speed transaxle. Much like your work, here are a couple of photos of what I did (BTW, I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into this kind of thing). I fabricated a custom trailing arm.

Andys


From experience...


Junk the Wilwood spot caliper. If you set the brake when the rotor is hot, after it cools it won't release. You will end up beating the shit out of the caliper trying to get the park brake off.

Hi Clay,

I just ordered a set of Wilwood Mechanical spot calipers to make parking brakes for my V8 car that will have Boxster brakes with Rich Johnston adapters. Just to be sure I called Marty today at MSDS that runs them on his Turbo 914-6 car and they did a second car and he says they are perfect. I went over this with Eric Shea for a long time on the phone and he said as far as this thread went, it made no sense as the 914 brakes are really set up to be mechanical E calipers when we pull the handle.

Is this a red-hot racecar brake problem? Can it be the pads?

The only discontinued item on the web was a different number that the 120-2281,
120-2280.

Bob
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ClayPerrine
post Dec 9 2008, 09:43 AM
Post #5


Life's been good to me so far.....
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 15,902
Joined: 11-September 03
From: Hurst, TX.
Member No.: 1,143
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 8 2008, 11:28 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 20 2008, 08:06 PM) *

QUOTE(andys @ Aug 20 2008, 05:13 PM) *

Wilhelm,

Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, thus the late post.

Nice work. Good to see someone thinking outside-the-box. I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Most think the 914 bearing is more than adequate, and the 911 bearing beyond most needs.

I went with the 911 bearing mostly because it matched the late 911 axles, and I also moved the bearing further outboard in order to fit my 6 speed transaxle. Much like your work, here are a couple of photos of what I did (BTW, I can appreciate the amount of work that goes into this kind of thing). I fabricated a custom trailing arm.

Andys


From experience...


Junk the Wilwood spot caliper. If you set the brake when the rotor is hot, after it cools it won't release. You will end up beating the shit out of the caliper trying to get the park brake off.

Hi Clay,

I just ordered a set of Wilwood Mechanical spot calipers to make parking brakes for my V8 car that will have Boxster brakes with Rich Johnston adapters. Just to be sure I called Marty today at MSDS that runs them on his Turbo 914-6 car and they did a second car and he says they are perfect. I went over this with Eric Shea for a long time on the phone and he said as far as this thread went, it made no sense as the 914 brakes are really set up to be mechanical E calipers when we pull the handle.

Is this a red-hot racecar brake problem? Can it be the pads?

The only discontinued item on the web was a different number that the 120-2281,
120-2280.

Bob




Talk to Rich Johnson, and have him tell you about Mike Floyd's car. It was the one with the stuck park brake that got beat with a hammer to make it release.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Wilhelm   Rear hub with 928 bearing and increased offset   Aug 10 2008, 11:24 PM
Wilhelm   Cut off everything that didn't look like rear ...   Aug 10 2008, 11:45 PM
Wilhelm   Found a some 11 gauge 4.75" outside diameter ...   Aug 10 2008, 11:48 PM
iamchappy   Impressive!....   Aug 10 2008, 11:51 PM
Wilhelm   Cut the old hub out of a 914 swing arm and than we...   Aug 10 2008, 11:58 PM
SirAndy   :trophy: how does the brake attach? :idea: Andy   Aug 11 2008, 12:30 AM
Wilhelm   :trophy: how does the brake attach? :idea: And...   Aug 11 2008, 12:43 AM
sww914   What you've done looks great! Good ideas f...   Aug 11 2008, 12:52 AM
Wilhelm   What you've done looks great! Good ideas ...   Aug 11 2008, 02:03 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   What you've done looks great! Good ideas...   Aug 11 2008, 02:19 AM
Mikey914   Nice. Saw a set of turbo twisties on CL locally an...   Aug 11 2008, 01:06 AM
neo914-6   Excellent work and great idea!   Aug 11 2008, 01:42 AM
Wilhelm   Since I can add the brake bracket for my caliper e...   Aug 11 2008, 02:08 AM
Rick_Eberle   Since I can add the brake bracket for my caliper ...   Aug 11 2008, 02:25 AM
roadster fan   Nice work, wish I had some of those tools :worshi...   Aug 11 2008, 03:16 AM
Wilhelm   Thanks for the info on the reinforcements! Th...   Aug 18 2008, 09:18 PM
Wilhelm   Here are the parking brakes set in place without t...   Aug 18 2008, 09:24 PM
r_towle   awesome work... I agree that what you did will ad...   Aug 18 2008, 09:27 PM
Krieger914   Nice work. Do you think the axles are going to hi...   Aug 18 2008, 09:44 PM
John   Wow! That is some excellent thinking. Are yo...   Aug 18 2008, 10:28 PM
SGB   Simply amazing. Wow that sweet. :)   Aug 18 2008, 10:32 PM
Wilhelm   As the axle would be going into a deeper hole, the...   Aug 18 2008, 10:55 PM
Todd Enlund   Damn, dude... that rocks. :headbanger:   Aug 18 2008, 11:19 PM
Wilhelm   Forgot to add this should anyone else be intereste...   Aug 19 2008, 12:19 AM
andys   Wilhelm, Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto ...   Aug 20 2008, 04:13 PM
ClayPerrine   Wilhelm, Just catching up after 5 days in Puerto...   Aug 20 2008, 10:06 PM
burton73   Wilhelm, Just catching up after 5 days in Puert...   Dec 8 2008, 11:28 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='1069525' date='Au...   Dec 9 2008, 09:43 AM
Brett W   One thing to keep in mind, on a unit bearing like ...   Aug 20 2008, 06:26 PM
andys   Clay, I've read that opinion before, but unfo...   Aug 20 2008, 11:11 PM
ClayPerrine   Clay, I've read that opinion before, but unf...   Aug 21 2008, 12:55 PM
andys   Clay, I've read that opinion before, but un...   Aug 22 2008, 03:06 PM
Brett W   The Carrera GT used a spot type caliper. http://...   Aug 21 2008, 01:15 AM
ClayPerrine   The Carrera GT used a spot type caliper. http:/...   Aug 21 2008, 12:56 PM
McMark   Beautiful... :drooley:   Aug 21 2008, 03:00 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Ummm... Can I have that rear suspension? :D   Aug 21 2008, 03:15 AM
Wilhelm   "I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Mos...   Aug 21 2008, 12:34 PM
andys   "I curious why you chose the 928 bearing? Mo...   Aug 21 2008, 12:59 PM
ClayPerrine   For what its worth, even Wilwood is using a parkbr...   Aug 21 2008, 01:10 PM
Brett W   Glad I haven't bought the Wilwood spot caliper...   Aug 21 2008, 04:27 PM
seanery   nice project! it's very cool!!...   Aug 21 2008, 04:41 PM
charliew   I don't know why this additional challenge occ...   Sep 18 2008, 11:46 AM
Lou W   Very nice work. :beer2:   Nov 30 2008, 05:54 AM
burton73   Clay, This was Rich’s answer to my email on the...   Dec 9 2008, 03:39 PM
charliew   Wilhelm I have been anxiously waiting to see the r...   Jan 24 2009, 07:54 PM
Wilhelm   I'm anxiously awaiting the solution too! ...   Jan 24 2009, 10:49 PM
charliew   Oh yeah I forget about the weather everywhere but ...   Jan 25 2009, 08:54 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
16 User(s) are reading this topic (16 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th November 2024 - 12:34 PM