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> waterborn paints, here they come, like it or not, comeing to Canada, and California
pete-stevers
post Feb 1 2009, 12:48 PM
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I have been informed by my lordco paint rep that at the end of the year, we will no longer be able to buy solvent based auto paint, and we will be forced to switch to waterborn paints which require a ubber spensive cross draft booths, not to mention all the solvent paint guns will be obsolete....
basicaly killing any hobbiest paint operations...like me
any thoughts or ideas???
it is to implemented here in Can and Cal.
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post Feb 1 2009, 11:53 PM
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My friends new spraybooth is almost like riding a motorcycle it's so windy. It's heated and windy. I would think the waterborne paints could be shot thinner and with more coats if you are a hobbiest.

My first job as a painter was spraying porcelain on a moving convair line, porcelain was ground colored glass mixed with water. My job before painting was the paint mixer. It was called the mill room. The porcelain was mixed in huge 500, 1000, and 1500, and 2000 lb. tumblers/grinders. The painters each had 80 gallon pots and usually used three pots a shift. I actually developed my right side more than the left. Sometimes we worked two shifts. If a panel got runs or trash in it or someone mishandled it, someone just took it off the hangers and swept it down with a broom and put it back on the line and we repainted it. The oven was part of the line and the heat even in the winter was enough to dry the porcelain in about three to five minutes, We were spraying and the oven was on the other side of the room. We each were infront of a three sided enclosure with big exhaust fans to pull most of the mist away from each painter. There were two on the good side and one painter on the back side. If the convair ever stopped the parts in the oven would be ruined. The overhead convair was a big oval, The room was about 280 feet by 100 feet and the oven was about 150 feet long. The parts would be dark red in the center. Some of the panels were 16 feet long by about 18 inches wide with 5 inch sides and interlocking flanges. These were filling station roof panels. The stations had lifetime warranty's on the panels. The whole station was sheeted with these porcelain panels. We were painting mild steel and never had a problem with rust of any kind. 1964, 1.50 a hour.

I was thinking the chev. trucks that all peeled were the first attempt at painting with waterborne top coats over regular primer.

I have used autoair on motorcycle tanks. You can try something and if you don't like it just wipe it off with a damp cloth but you better also resand it with 4 or 600 to make sure nothing is left in the paint scratches or it will show up when you get out in the sun after it's been cleared. Not a happy situation to have ghost skulls were you don't expect them.

I'm not sure if the waterborne paints are as durable in the sun as the old stuff.
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pete-stevers   waterborn paints, here they come, like it or not   Feb 1 2009, 12:48 PM
736conver   I think I read in a mag that by 2010 the switch wi...   Feb 1 2009, 01:02 PM
pete-stevers   my understanding is that they will still allow cle...   Feb 1 2009, 01:09 PM
736conver   Im sure with everything, someone will design a low...   Feb 1 2009, 01:19 PM
ConeDodger   IF it comes to California alone, it makes for a go...   Feb 1 2009, 01:33 PM
rick 918-S   Air movement is part of the drying but heaters are...   Feb 1 2009, 01:39 PM
pete-stevers   Air movement is part of the drying but heaters ar...   Feb 1 2009, 01:48 PM
rick 918-S   I'm just starting to read about it. I'm th...   Feb 1 2009, 02:55 PM
pete-stevers   the propane heater will cause to much moisture, fr...   Feb 1 2009, 03:41 PM
melnyk   just buy paint in mex-e-co   Feb 1 2009, 04:30 PM
pete-stevers   i have heard that even if i buy paint in the US of...   Feb 1 2009, 05:34 PM
ericread   Those guys in nothern Cali should have it made. J...   Feb 1 2009, 05:38 PM
helios   Those guys in nothern Cali should have it made. ...   Feb 1 2009, 05:44 PM
scotty b   Waterborne paint makes no difference on the gun us...   Feb 1 2009, 06:06 PM
pete-stevers   i have learned that the base will be the only wate...   Feb 1 2009, 06:08 PM
sww914   My friend has already switched to it in his body s...   Feb 1 2009, 08:08 PM
craig downs   Here in good old Cali it already switch over to wa...   Feb 1 2009, 08:21 PM
TimT   Big friggin deal about waterborn or waterbased pa...   Feb 1 2009, 08:51 PM
TimT   Missed this on first read All your existing gu...   Feb 1 2009, 08:58 PM
pete-stevers   yes the sun....you need to bring up that sore poin...   Feb 1 2009, 09:02 PM
TimT   Pretty easy.... you can mix water and vinegar? ...   Feb 1 2009, 09:04 PM
rick 918-S   As with anything there is a learning curve. It is ...   Feb 1 2009, 11:11 PM
TimT   Rick, do yourself a favor and buy a introductory ...   Feb 1 2009, 11:52 PM
rick 918-S   Rick, do yourself a favor and buy a introductory...   Feb 2 2009, 12:04 AM
charliew   My friends new spraybooth is almost like riding a ...   Feb 1 2009, 11:53 PM
TimT   Sorry Rick, maybe got some posts mixed up   Feb 2 2009, 12:14 AM


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