suby hotrod motors, Probably cost equal to a really good porsche 6 Options

[charliew]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1699103

These motors are probably 15-20k once they reach the track. Just a offhand guess. As my son has spent 13k on a street motor with no tranny mods. Just motor, ported heads, bigger cams, 100mm bore, open source tuning with datalogging and utec piggyback, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, bigger oil pump, front mount ic, 8qt oil pan, true cold air intake and a 30r rotated turbo at 26 psi. Conservative tune about 425awhp. Also no water or alcohol injection yet.

[charliew]

I see no reason to buy a renegade kit. But I like to fab as most hotrodders have always done things their way anyhow. The radiator is not complicated. Anytime you put a higher horsepower motor in a car it usually needs better cooling. If you use the subary tranny you won't need the adapter, thats 500.00 you can spend toward a bremar conversion or you can even do that yourself and apply the 500 toward a obx lsd, you will need it. There are some nice cable shifters now on the market but a fiero or grand am or boxter if you gotta have german shifter and some longer cables will work and shift just as good as the 914 shifter, probably better.

Tony posted a easy to make motor support that will work. The tranny can be hung from the 914 tranny spot easily.

If you use the sti motor and want to also have the avcs you will need the sti ecu and either open source programming or a piggyback. The sti is not a simple swap if you want the avcs. Which is more torque and hp. The avcs is worth about 30 hp by itself and makes a much broader torque band.

The renegade kit is for the non welder/fabber and will help to not cut the trunk up as much with the intercooler piping they provide.

Outfront has a header for the front of the motor that may be the perfect spot for the turbo because of the room in front of the motor. That might give more room for the little wrx intercooler. The high hp sti's use a much bigger front mount ic to make big hp. A lot of them also use sophisticated water-meth injection to go with way more boost than the sti vf39 can provide. Suby hp up to about 260 is sorta cheap but after that it gets more expensive. A real awd 400hp and 375 ft lbs in a awd sti suby is at least 4k more. At least 15% of that is lost in the rear wd on the suby which won't happen in the 914.