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> suby hotrod motors, Probably cost equal to a really good porsche 6
charliew
post Feb 24 2009, 09:50 AM
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These motors are probably 15-20k once they reach the track. Just a offhand guess. As my son has spent 13k on a street motor with no tranny mods. Just motor, ported heads, bigger cams, 100mm bore, open source tuning with datalogging and utec piggyback, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, bigger oil pump, front mount ic, 8qt oil pan, true cold air intake and a 30r rotated turbo at 26 psi. Conservative tune about 425awhp. Also no water or alcohol injection yet.
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Feb 26 2009, 02:24 PM) *

QUOTE(iamchappy @ Feb 26 2009, 01:32 PM) *

I may need to rethink my engine, sell my 400hp turbo Porsche 6 engine and buy a Subie engine to replace it, and the wife a nice used car.....


Hold on, hold on, there's a down side. It's not just the price of the engine. You also need a Renegade Subaru kit ($2000) radiator ($1000) programmable ECU and harness ($1500), odds and ends ($1000) and a couple of free weekends. Plus whatever suspension and other upgrades you'd do to put a six in your 914. More negatives:

1. It won't look like a big beautiful Porsche six.
2. It won't sound like a big beautiful Porsche six.
3. You won't win concours events.
4. You may not be welcome at PCA events (if they're dicks), and
5. You won't be competitive in your class if you race.

But that's not much for me to give up in comparison, and for pure no-worry fun it beats the hell out of anything else I do.


Very ture, but, as a counter point, I offer:
1) /6 mounts: 275-400 + welding
2) /6 oil tank 700-1200. drilling and some costs for oil lines
3) /6 sheet metal/fiberglass for engine + parts that are not part of the fiberglass kit 250-750 (if you can find the metal)
4) some wireing, more if you go CSI
5) new gagues for the /6
6) carb tuning for non CSI

So, all in all, the cost is roughly the same less the price of the motors.

It boils down to this. the subie will create more power, weigh less, tighten up the f/r balance and provide years of trouble free service and be cheap to replace if you blow it up. The down side is that sound. Granted, if I had a subie, I would make it as quiet as possible and thrash the crap out of it.

Since I don't have a subie, I will have to live with the guilt and sound that my beautiful /6 makes everytime I run it out... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) oh, and the looks of jelous 911 drivers as I motor on by. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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charliew   suby hotrod motors   Feb 24 2009, 09:50 AM
cobra94563   porsche motor w/ 400+hp is more... now..an SBC...   Feb 24 2009, 10:12 AM
Vacca Rabite   porsche motor w/ 400+hp is more... now..an SBC.....   Feb 24 2009, 10:45 AM
J P Stein   Great power.... then comes the age old hot rod que...   Feb 24 2009, 10:31 AM
pktzygt   Great power.... then comes the age old hot rod qu...   Feb 24 2009, 10:37 AM
WRX914   Well this is a loaded question... A hot rod suby ...   Feb 26 2009, 02:14 PM
fiid   Well this is a loaded question... <<chopped...   Feb 27 2009, 08:10 PM
WRX914   Forgot to mention.... Because the engine complet...   Feb 26 2009, 02:21 PM
SnailPerformance   Forgot to mention.... Because the engine comple...   Mar 5 2009, 05:07 PM
DBCooper   At what point do you consider a Porsche engine to ...   Feb 26 2009, 03:14 PM
iamchappy   I may need to rethink my engine, sell my 400hp tur...   Feb 26 2009, 03:32 PM
turboman808   Yeah the subaru motor is so freakin cheap. But da...   Feb 26 2009, 03:40 PM
Brett W   Hell a 250hp 2.0 flat six is well into the 30K ran...   Feb 26 2009, 03:52 PM
DBCooper   Hell a 250hp 2.0 flat six is well into the 30K ra...   Feb 27 2009, 05:40 AM
charliew   Any suby powered 914 should be easier to handle th...   Feb 26 2009, 04:20 PM
DBCooper   I may need to rethink my engine, sell my 400hp tu...   Feb 26 2009, 04:24 PM
charliew   I see no reason to buy a renegade kit. But I like ...   Feb 27 2009, 12:11 AM
plymouth37   Subie is cheaper hands down. I have about 3K into ...   Feb 27 2009, 01:59 AM
grantsfo   Subie is cheaper hands down. I have about 3K into...   Feb 27 2009, 03:27 PM
Brett W   Turbos are the best thing for street cars. NA mot...   Feb 27 2009, 02:28 PM
turboman808   Turbos are the best thing for street cars. NA mo...   Feb 27 2009, 02:55 PM
effutuo101   I may need to rethink my engine, sell my 400hp t...   Feb 27 2009, 03:30 PM
WRX914   You do not need a aftermarket ECU. You simply nee...   Feb 27 2009, 07:22 PM
charliew   A 2.0 wrx converted to a 2.5 shortblock is called ...   Mar 3 2009, 12:02 AM
WRX914   A 2.0 wrx converted to a 2.5 shortblock is called...   Mar 3 2009, 03:05 PM
r_towle   please explain a few things. $1850 buy a shor...   Mar 3 2009, 04:11 PM
DBCooper   please explain a few things. $1850 buy a sho...   Mar 3 2009, 05:25 PM
fiid   Is it possible, or has anyone done it, to put a c...   Mar 5 2009, 04:34 PM
brant   It always comes down to priorities. try going vint...   Mar 3 2009, 04:25 PM
DBCooper   It always comes down to priorities. try going vin...   Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM
grantsfo   It always comes down to priorities. try going vin...   Mar 16 2009, 11:23 AM
charliew   I have seen a custom itb setup on a suby but it wa...   Mar 3 2009, 10:15 PM
SnailPerformance   I have seen a custom itb setup on a suby but it w...   Mar 5 2009, 05:17 PM
charliew   [quote name='charliew' post='1141041' date='Mar 3...   Mar 14 2009, 12:44 PM
DBCooper   [quote name='SnailPerformance' post='1141879' dat...   Mar 16 2009, 06:24 AM
DBCooper   Really though as wrx914 said a good 300 hp that d...   Mar 5 2009, 05:21 PM
WRX914   I stand corrected... Charlie is correct. I calle...   Mar 5 2009, 04:20 PM
charliew   DB think about this, you are running about 80 on 3...   Mar 8 2009, 10:53 AM
DBCooper   Shift "down" to fifth? The STI engine I...   Mar 8 2009, 03:28 PM
WRX914   Last year I ran a hopped up Camaro SS that sounded...   Mar 9 2009, 01:52 PM
SnailPerformance   ill run just about anything in my car.. 505 z06 su...   Mar 9 2009, 10:41 PM
charliew   I don't know what year gsx-r1000 you are playi...   Mar 11 2009, 01:32 PM
biosurfer1   Next time I'm in Vegas, I'm going to need ...   Mar 11 2009, 01:59 PM
DBCooper   No, it's not a Gixxer, but you and a friend ca...   Mar 11 2009, 06:20 PM
charliew   Only thing I found on a nasioc search on treefroga...   Mar 16 2009, 10:53 AM
DBCooper   Only thing I found on a nasioc search on treefrog...   Mar 17 2009, 06:25 AM
biosurfer1   Holy moly....$2100/HOUR?!?!?   Mar 16 2009, 12:31 PM
grantsfo   Holy moly....$2100/HOUR?!?!? Hey th...   Mar 16 2009, 12:52 PM
charliew   I also love the sound of a flat six at 7500 but I ...   Mar 17 2009, 10:25 AM
DBCooper   No, Charlie, wasn't referring to you, it was T...   Mar 17 2009, 01:37 PM
charliew   My third, a 58 vw, was a college car to replace th...   Mar 17 2009, 02:19 PM


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