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> Little confusion on my part surrounding "M-471", Paging Dr. 914
Lavanaut
post Mar 4 2009, 11:28 AM
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I've been wondering about this for a long time and was reminded about it last night as I was flipping through the AA catalog and came across pics of George's blue M-471 GT. It's my understanding that the true factory GT race cars did not have the "M-471" designation, that it was technically the designation for the "GT-look" package that one could order from the factory on a /6...?

I guess at the center of my uncertainty is this: when I see "M-471" I immediately think "not a factory GT", but a factory GT look-a-like...just like the wide body "turbo look" 911s.

Can someone help clear this up for me?

Thanks

edit: forgot to say that adding to the confusion is the verbiage in the AA catalog about the "M-471 GT" and its racing history.
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post Mar 4 2009, 05:01 PM
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The homologation process ratifies (makes legal) the car in a specific form for a specific class of racing. Generally a class will require a certain number of cars to be built in a specific form to qualify for homologation.

The M471 as it applies to the 914/6 is basically a flared fendered body modification and wider wheels with no changes to engine or interior. The M471 option is only a small part of the full GT specification. Most GT's did not have the full GT specification anyway since most builders only added what was required for their class. Instead of the 100 liter tank, the IMSA cars had to use a fuel cell.


The M471 as it applies to the 914/4 is much different.
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Lavanaut   Little confusion on my part surrounding "M-471"   Mar 4 2009, 11:28 AM
sixnotfour   Factory 84 and up carrera's with turbo look th...   Mar 4 2009, 11:58 AM
SirAndy   914-6GT were ordered as 914-6R or ren. "Ren...   Mar 4 2009, 12:36 PM
carr914   The Factory M-471 cars (George's and smg914...   Mar 4 2009, 12:12 PM
Lavanaut   The Factory M-471 cars (George's and smg914...   Mar 4 2009, 12:40 PM
Lavanaut   Put another way, perhaps more succinctly, I believ...   Mar 4 2009, 12:44 PM
SirAndy   Put another way, perhaps more succinctly, I belie...   Mar 4 2009, 01:03 PM
Gustl   Basically, there were 3 different types: 1. Fact...   Mar 4 2009, 01:46 PM
Gustl   form the factory, you could order 3 different type...   Mar 4 2009, 01:50 PM
sixnotfour   Why on the invoice I posted is it desinated as 914...   Mar 4 2009, 03:07 PM
Gustl   when the factory built the 914-6 race cars, they w...   Mar 4 2009, 03:38 PM
carr914   :agree: Also I believe that Homologation is the ...   Mar 4 2009, 03:45 PM
Lavanaut   This thread started off totally mundane and you al...   Mar 4 2009, 04:39 PM
Gustl   Althought I thought I knew what 'homologation...   Mar 5 2009, 03:21 AM
Lavanaut   By the way, what's driving all this is the epi...   Mar 4 2009, 04:56 PM
davep   The homologation process ratifies (makes legal) th...   Mar 4 2009, 05:01 PM
carr914   Back in the late 60s-early 70s, to race in World E...   Mar 4 2009, 05:18 PM
davep   So the Factory made 25 917s and lined them up for...   Mar 4 2009, 10:32 PM
Lavanaut   Dave, TC, thanks. I get it now, and Wolfgang...   Mar 4 2009, 06:19 PM
Gustl   So what I'm taking away from all of this is, ...   Mar 5 2009, 03:28 AM
9146986   I'm talking about a couple of MY'72 cars...   Mar 5 2009, 08:26 PM
Gustl   There are later VIN's than the '72 #260, ...   Mar 5 2009, 11:23 PM
SirAndy   what other 914-6 do you know with a higher VIN th...   Mar 6 2009, 12:06 AM
carr914   I think it is correct to call the Factory M-471 Ho...   Mar 4 2009, 09:58 PM
smg914   One of my favorite subjects. And thanks to all fo...   Mar 4 2009, 10:49 PM
carr914   So the Factory made 25 917s and lined them up fo...   Mar 5 2009, 09:25 AM
davep   [Questionable - According to Denis Jenkinson book...   Mar 5 2009, 12:01 PM


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