Little confusion on my part surrounding "M-471", Paging Dr. 914 Options

[Lavanaut]

I've been wondering about this for a long time and was reminded about it last night as I was flipping through the AA catalog and came across pics of George's blue M-471 GT. It's my understanding that the true factory GT race cars did not have the "M-471" designation, that it was technically the designation for the "GT-look" package that one could order from the factory on a /6...?

I guess at the center of my uncertainty is this: when I see "M-471" I immediately think "not a factory GT", but a factory GT look-a-like...just like the wide body "turbo look" 911s.

Can someone help clear this up for me?

Thanks

edit: forgot to say that adding to the confusion is the verbiage in the AA catalog about the "M-471 GT" and its racing history.

[Lavanaut]

Dave, TC, thanks. I get it now, and Wolfgang's comment makes perfect sense.

So what I'm taking away from all of this is, IF the rumors Wolfgang mentioned are true, "M471 GT" would be an appropriate designation for only those cars which Porsche used to meet the GT class homologation requirements. I would think that if one could prove that their car met this stringent definition it would undoubtedly affect the value of their car, and favorably. Otherwise, "M471" as it applies to a 914/6 should be referred to at most as "GT look" (somewhat similar to the wide body, 491 "turbo look" 911s).

But I digress. What do you all think? I'm sure plenty here are likely to say "who the hell cares?", but I'm genuinely curious what those of you who really know and enjoy these types of details think. AKA "I defer to the experts". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

edit: TC, really enjoyed those pics, thanks for posting 'em

[Gustl]

So what I'm taking away from all of this is, IF the rumors Wolfgang mentioned are true, "M471 GT" would be an appropriate designation for only those cars which Porsche used to meet the GT class homologation requirements. I would think that if one could prove that their car met this stringent definition it would undoubtedly affect the value of their car, and favorably. Otherwise, "M471" as it applies to a 914/6 should be referred to at most as "GT look" (somewhat similar to the wide body, 491 "turbo look" 911s).

I believe its possible all the 15 1971 M471 cars were initially intended to be racecars but many of them never made it that far. Since they were on the list they can certainly be considered Homologation GT's. Many of these cars were sold by dealers as "Street GT's" and thats accurate too because they did ended up as street cars.

personally, I would say that all Porsche 914-6 with the M-471 option (factory built !!!) belong to the same group
this would also include the factory built M-471 street cars that were built after the homologation process
I'm talking about a couple of MY'72 cars with the factory installed M-471 package (for example the well known car with the highest VIN 914.2.43.0260)

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[IronHillRestorations]

I'm talking about a couple of MY'72 cars with the factory installed M-471 package (for example the well known car with the highest VIN 914.2.43.0260)

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There are later VIN's than the '72 #260, including a 914-6 that was build in '75 IIRC, as it did have the later style bumpers.

There was some book cooking for to get the homologation numbers.