suby hotrod motors, Probably cost equal to a really good porsche 6 Options

[charliew]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1699103

These motors are probably 15-20k once they reach the track. Just a offhand guess. As my son has spent 13k on a street motor with no tranny mods. Just motor, ported heads, bigger cams, 100mm bore, open source tuning with datalogging and utec piggyback, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, bigger oil pump, front mount ic, 8qt oil pan, true cold air intake and a 30r rotated turbo at 26 psi. Conservative tune about 425awhp. Also no water or alcohol injection yet.

[charliew]

DB think about this, you are running about 80 on 35 north no traffic, it's about 5am on sunday morning, you are daydreaming when in your mirror a black 08 zo6 comes up really fast. You say ok and go down to 5th, by that time he is about 4 car lengths ahead, you will never pull even with him I promise unless you got more hp than him and thats about 505. There's a real good chance thats underrated also. Subys are awhp not rwhp and 100 the vette is applying more hp to the pavement or less parasitic hp loss, also he's more aerodynamic. He may even weigh less.

A vf 39 is making a lot of unnecessary excess heat when it's making at or above 18 psi. As I said it's so close to the ragged edge you need to be a scientist to keep it alive on the street we were talking about 500 hp I think not 400, there is a lot of difference in cost.
Another nice very expensive suby, 8800 rpm, [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEZAINx9fw]

I'm really not sure what the top speed of a 914 is thats on record. I don't know if I would ever have the guts to try a 400hp 914 out the top.

Also most suby that are pushed hard will get about 3qts of oil added before they get to 7500 miles. They use oil and if not checked very regularly they will get low enough to spin bearings. Spark plugs will go way past 30k but the belt is scary if you are using high rpm valve springs and higher lift cams. The last thing you want is a broke belt.

Wittmer 25 is my son on nasioc he has a 04 sti with a built motor with a 30r turbo, 26 psi. The only thing we didn't do to his ported big cam heads was go to larger valves as he wanted to keep some low end torque for the street. 100mm bore forged pistons. He hasn't installed the water-meth yet. He got a new girlfriend. He runs a safe conservative street tune. A 400 hp zo6 is a good match, also the gto's and the caddys but the 505 zo6 is a different horse on the hwy believe me. In the suby a few runs at prairie hill produced low 12's on conservative 1.8- 2.0 launches as I remember.

At the drags or a little foolishness on the street maybe. Subys are neat cars but they are out of their element at 150 and above in my opinion.