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> reverse light switch, high resistance and leaks, why?
davesprinkle
post Feb 5 2009, 01:52 PM
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OK, I'm now on my third reverse switch, with a consistent problem:

After a few hundred miles, the switch contacts become high-resistance (50 Ohms or so) and the switch leaks tranny fluid, filling up the wiring boot. By the way, the last two switches were brand-new Porsche replacements. I'm running Swepco 201, by the way. Anybody have any suggestions about what might be going on?
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post May 3 2009, 07:25 PM
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Why not just put the tranny in reverse with the sw. out and measure how far the pin comes out and then press the sw. in that amount and see if it makes contact? If it doesn't see how far it needs to go in and adjust the sealing washers so it's not over pressing the bridge? The contacts will burn if the light ground is bad or the other connections are loose or dirty. Any high resistance connection means the complete circuit is carrying the aditional load and the contacts opening and closing will be arcing more and burning more.
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QUOTE(charliew @ May 3 2009, 09:25 PM) *

Why not just put the tranny in reverse with the sw. out and measure how far the pin comes out and then press the sw. in that amount and see if it makes contact? If it doesn't see how far it needs to go in and adjust the sealing washers so it's not over pressing the bridge? The contacts will burn if the light ground is bad or the other connections are loose or dirty. Any high resistance connection means the complete circuit is carrying the aditional load and the contacts opening and closing will be arcing more and burning more.



When you increase the resistance in a circuit, the current flow is reduced, so I don't understand what you mean by "the complete circuit is carrying the aditional load and the contacts opening and closing will be arcing more and burning more."

Contacts tend to arc on opening, not closing. They may bounce on closing, and thus arc for an instant pending final closure. When contacts open, and arc, the arc ionizes the air between them, making it conductive, and thus allowing the arc to continue for longer than it would otherwise (like in a vacuum). Contacts switching AC last longer, because the current goes to zero 120 times per second (at least for 60hz AC) and self-extinguish. Contacts switching DC have to deal with the sustained arc. Worst case is DC switching an inductive load, which our light bulbs aren't. Solutions to all this are better contact material and bridging contacts like in our back-up light switches. Bridging contacts effectively open at twice the rate as single contacts, minimizing the opportunity for an ionization path to sustain an arc. The color of these contacts indicates to me that they are likely silver-cadmium oxide- low resistance, good thermal characteristics, and resistance to burning. As I said earlier- a very robust design.
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davesprinkle   reverse light switch   Feb 5 2009, 01:52 PM
GeorgeRud   I've never had one go bad on me, so it seems o...   Feb 5 2009, 02:13 PM
davesprinkle   I've never had one go bad on me, so it seems ...   Feb 6 2009, 12:07 PM
ejm   Maybe the actuating pin is little too long causing...   Feb 6 2009, 05:34 AM
Joe Ricard   That's what I would guess. As well as the meta...   Feb 6 2009, 06:38 AM
Drums66   That's what I would guess. As well as the met...   Feb 6 2009, 03:08 PM
Dr Evil   Did you ever remove the actuating pin? It may be i...   Feb 6 2009, 08:53 AM
davesprinkle   Did you ever remove the actuating pin? It may be ...   Feb 6 2009, 12:10 PM
Dr Evil   Did you ever remove the actuating pin? It may be...   Feb 6 2009, 01:31 PM
davesprinkle   [quote name='davesprinkle' post='1130912' date='F...   Feb 6 2009, 01:35 PM
kconway   Vent is oposite side of the case top just before t...   Feb 6 2009, 12:47 PM
Demick   I've had the reverse switch leak through the s...   Feb 6 2009, 03:49 PM
davesprinkle   I've had the reverse switch leak through the ...   Feb 6 2009, 06:26 PM
ejm   If you remove it make note of where the vent hol...   Feb 6 2009, 05:32 PM
astronomerdave   Pulled the switch and pin out of a box at the sho...   Apr 9 2009, 03:07 AM
astronomerdave   :bump: Does anyone know the position of the pin ...   Apr 15 2009, 03:43 PM
Maltese Falcon   I've had 2 new ones go bad, all leaking at the...   Feb 7 2009, 04:28 PM
davesprinkle   I've had 2 new ones go bad, all leaking at th...   Feb 7 2009, 07:40 PM
ssstikircr   I could just be a bad batch when those were made. ...   Feb 7 2009, 05:43 PM
kwales   Seals, We don;t need no stinking seals.. Probabl...   Feb 7 2009, 05:48 PM
Dr Evil   Dave, I'll sell you a used one for cheap ;) PM...   Feb 7 2009, 08:04 PM
charliew   I wonder if the same switch is on the type 1 vw tr...   Apr 9 2009, 09:19 AM
jk76.914   This is VERY timely. Mine did the same thing. Sa...   Apr 19 2009, 09:35 AM
davesprinkle   This is VERY timely. Mine did the same thing. S...   Apr 19 2009, 10:23 AM
astronomerdave   You should be careful when purchasing a new switc...   Apr 19 2009, 01:05 PM
perrin1097   OK, I'm now on my third reverse switch, with ...   Apr 19 2009, 10:29 AM
charliew   Ok when things go to hell after you've been me...   Apr 19 2009, 01:07 PM
astronomerdave   Ok when things go to hell after you've been m...   Apr 19 2009, 01:12 PM
charliew   I'm talking about the amount of shift movement...   Apr 19 2009, 01:22 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I'm talking about the amount of shift movemen...   May 3 2009, 07:38 PM
jk76.914   Well I installed my new switch from Pelican last w...   May 3 2009, 05:16 PM
astronomerdave   I was wondering why my original switch failed, so...   May 4 2009, 08:35 AM
Dr Evil   Thats just plain cool! Well done :)   May 3 2009, 06:20 PM
davesprinkle   Good work on this investigation, jk. I'm surp...   May 3 2009, 06:46 PM
jk76.914   The rubber diaphram is in the 33 year old switch. ...   May 3 2009, 07:01 PM
charliew   Why not just put the tranny in reverse with the sw...   May 3 2009, 07:25 PM
jk76.914   Why not just put the tranny in reverse with the s...   May 3 2009, 08:33 PM
charliew   You are correct in what you post about the more re...   May 4 2009, 09:22 AM


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