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> WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!, It is off jack stands!!!
wayne1234
post May 5 2009, 08:32 PM
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Well, I decided to look into the new car more that I got from a member on here. there was a trunk floor repair that left a little to be desired. I tried using flux cored mig welding and didnt have much luck, so yesterday I got a tank and some gas @ $200 (ouch) and I was doing some survey work on the front trunk. Let me say I was way too excited to get my car and I looked underneath and saw a couple of rust throughts on the passenger side near the rear but the "longs" where I spent most of my 5 minutes looking was solid. and I though no big deal just a couple of pan spots. and under the new battery tray looked solid from the engine compartment. well under the battery tray "hell hole" was described as" not perfect". there is a piece of metal screwed over the bad stuff. making it appear solid. Then the big suprise, there has been por15 used on the motor mount I thought it looked real rough and when i pushed on it with my finger oops a hole. some poking with a screw driver resulted in the hole you see. the I looked further back at the arm that goes to the rear suspension and it is also por15 with a odd look . more poking and you guessed it a hole. I guess some one thinks por15 is structural. NOT,,, Well I dont mind documenting this because I will fix it right. but hopefully my eagerness to finally get my 914 will make someone else take a second look at the car they are looking at. Mine look great in photo's and even pretty good in person. but it had a dark secret. Now the Real question on the motor mount and (trailing arm mount?) guess that's what its called. what should I paint the back of the metal with and what gauge should I use, should I make drain holes so It wont hold water in the future? Im gonna try to do all this welding with the motor in the car. I fear I will never get the car back together if I take out the motor. Thanks for all your input. Wayne
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post May 9 2009, 03:32 PM
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It's good you're motivated to save her. There are alot of other things though that you could also consider diving into though to really make the car nice again. Dropping the engine with 2 jacks and the wheels off isn't hard at all (pelicanparts has the how to article). Then you could start doing stuff like getting the engine tin and other parts powder coated all nice. Get all the bolts and hardware zinc plated. Make room so you can really go to town attacking one rust area after another. You have alot of welding ahead of you to make that car right. MIG welder with variable wire speed and variable voltage, at the low settings, is really the only way to go. I did some hell hole repairs, and suspension console replacement on mine. Then I rebuilt all the suspension (all the original rubber bushings will be compressed and shot). Got some rebuilt brake calipers from Eric Shay- you don't want to be driving with 35 year old brakes. 5 lug upgrade parts from various world members. Now I have a solid car and completely rebuilt suspension. Popped the original engine back in with 115k miles and the car runs great as my daily driver. Haven't done paint yet... but I'll get to it. I've put about $4500 into it and spent about 9 months doing it at a pretty leasurely pace. Could've done it a little cheaper if I wasn't replacing mirrors, glass, various details here and there and ofcourse the 5 lug upgrade. But it's worth it.

Judging by your rust situation, you're going to want to examine the suspension console ears, longitudinals behind the rocker panels, jack points, interior floor boards (scrapping out the tar), seat mount brackets, clutch tube firewall bracket, ect. Like some other members said... your rust situation looks heavy. Good rule of thumb is that for every bit of rust you can see... there's 60% more hidden under the paint extending out from what you see. Getting the car apart is the only way to truly evaluate what you're up against and decide if you should shop for a rust free tub instead. Your car probably has nice parts... use them on a solid tub!

Here's a portion of my project: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...54896&st=40

If I was doing it again... I would pay to get the whole thing walnut shell blasted and start fresh. And I wouldn't mess with a tub that's much rustier than mine was.
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wayne1234   WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   May 5 2009, 08:32 PM
wayne1234   here some more pics... And check out the "All...   May 5 2009, 08:38 PM
wayne1234   here is more :headbang:   May 5 2009, 08:41 PM
SirAndy   What year is your car? The color should have been...   May 5 2009, 08:41 PM
wayne1234   Its a 74 one year older than me. yep :confused: l...   May 5 2009, 08:47 PM
SirAndy   Its a 74 one year older than me. yep :confused: ...   May 5 2009, 10:00 PM
wayne1234   My fear is I wont ever get her back together if I ...   May 5 2009, 08:51 PM
wayne1234   how can I tell what trans I have   May 5 2009, 10:28 PM
Dave_Darling   how can I tell what trans I have Where does the...   May 5 2009, 11:13 PM
charliew   You need to move back and manualy focus your camer...   May 5 2009, 11:03 PM
wayne1234   Thanks for the input, tools are not the problem. I...   May 5 2009, 11:28 PM
wayne1234   Well I have been busy here is the good and the bad...   May 5 2009, 11:57 PM
wayne1234   by the way looks like side shift linkage on driver...   May 6 2009, 12:15 AM
wayne1234   couple of better pics   May 6 2009, 12:19 AM
veltror   Mine was yellow,...........once   May 6 2009, 03:53 AM
Dave_Darling   For a side-shift car, your motor mount bar should ...   May 6 2009, 08:45 AM
mudfoot76   :wttc: If you haven't dropped engine yet and...   May 6 2009, 08:46 AM
Vacca Rabite   If your engine mount is rusted out, you are going ...   May 6 2009, 09:03 AM
wayne1234   Thanks for the offer mudfoot. i looked at your sig...   May 7 2009, 05:17 PM
Larouex   That's a heartbreak and a totally misrepresent...   May 7 2009, 11:38 PM
wayne1234   I'm gonna save her, i got all the bad out on t...   May 8 2009, 05:32 PM
highways   It's good you're motivated to save her. Th...   May 9 2009, 03:32 PM
veltror   Soda blast it rather then walnut shells, much les...   May 10 2009, 11:03 AM
charliew   When a unibody car has a lot of rust that is obvio...   May 10 2009, 01:07 PM
wayne1234   Well I have decided to go the easier route and dro...   May 11 2009, 08:41 PM
wayne1234   here is the mini sand blaster and my bike   May 11 2009, 08:44 PM
wayne1234   Progress :bump: .. Well after the girlfriend got h...   Oct 9 2009, 11:29 PM
wayne1234   what was left of the motor mount pics   Oct 9 2009, 11:49 PM
wayne1234   oops a little big lets try this   Oct 10 2009, 12:21 AM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Oct 10 2009, 12:33 AM
wayne1234   with the inner fender well in :headbanger: remin...   Oct 10 2009, 12:38 AM
wayne1234   The girlfriends car that kicked the Porsche out of...   Oct 10 2009, 12:50 AM
wayne1234   Feels like I'm making some real progress. Wha...   Oct 10 2009, 11:19 AM
SirAndy   Feels like I'm making some real progress. Wh...   Oct 10 2009, 12:42 PM
Dave_Darling   In my experience, lighter colors show the dirt a l...   Oct 10 2009, 01:30 PM
faux916   Wayne, is that the car that was in the classifieds...   Oct 10 2009, 02:42 PM
rick 918-S   Wayne, is that the car that was in the classified...   Oct 10 2009, 02:52 PM
wayne1234   WTF indeed,,,, Yep I bought it off a member on her...   Oct 11 2009, 02:15 AM
veltror   Keep going, mine is/was bad and I am still with it...   Oct 11 2009, 06:07 AM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Oct 31 2009, 08:19 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Oct 31 2009, 08:27 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Oct 31 2009, 08:31 PM
FourBlades   Your car is looking great, man. :trophy: You w...   Oct 31 2009, 08:35 PM
wayne1234   Finally got some more work done with a buddy helpi...   Oct 31 2009, 08:38 PM
914_teener   You are a true Hoosier... my Mom is from Indy....k...   Oct 31 2009, 08:44 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Oct 31 2009, 08:52 PM
wayne1234   Well I'm waiting on engine parts :bullshit: ...   Nov 18 2009, 10:23 PM
rick 918-S   I ran a metal fuel line through the tunnel but I e...   Nov 18 2009, 11:54 PM
wayne1234   OH NO,,, There is more welding in my future... Wel...   Nov 19 2009, 10:39 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Nov 19 2009, 10:42 PM
Ferg   :blink: were those lower gaps/holes covered with...   Nov 20 2009, 02:08 PM
wayne1234   No they were covered by that light blue metal piec...   Nov 20 2009, 04:49 PM
wayne1234   Getting it sorted out   Nov 25 2009, 05:51 PM
wayne1234   Keep the comments coming   Nov 25 2009, 05:53 PM
wayne1234   Welded up a couple of bondo spots that had nothing...   Dec 4 2009, 02:56 PM
SirAndy   Oh man, every time you post another picture, it ju...   Dec 4 2009, 03:01 PM
oz371   Oh man, every time you post another picture, it j...   Feb 12 2010, 01:51 PM
wayne1234   Also major progress.. We got the passenger inner f...   Dec 4 2009, 03:07 PM
wallys914   Also major progress.. We got the passenger inner ...   Dec 5 2009, 03:03 AM
wayne1234   Well we got the front slope nose back into shape t...   Dec 5 2009, 12:07 AM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Dec 5 2009, 12:09 AM
charliew   The guy that sold you that car should have his nam...   Dec 5 2009, 11:57 AM
wayne1234   Lots of progress :D ... Well I tore into the passe...   Dec 10 2009, 12:45 PM
SirAndy   It Was purchased off a member on here "1bad9...   Dec 10 2009, 01:03 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Dec 10 2009, 12:47 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Dec 10 2009, 12:50 PM
Rand   Kudos to you Wayne for showing such a good attitud...   Dec 10 2009, 01:02 PM
wayne1234   Yeah he said it was welded but.... He must have me...   Dec 10 2009, 01:14 PM
6freak   I feel for ya man.your a better man then me cause ...   Dec 10 2009, 03:22 PM
wayne1234   Wow we have been putting in the hours on the 914. ...   Dec 12 2009, 02:25 AM
wayne1234   Before After :smash: Some of the PO handy work...   Dec 12 2009, 02:35 AM
wayne1234   Success :trophy: The start of the sill plate mes...   Dec 12 2009, 02:41 AM
wayne1234   This is grafic :evilgrin: He though to hims...   Dec 12 2009, 02:50 AM
wayne1234   New metal :cheer:   Dec 12 2009, 02:53 AM
jd74914   Its looking great Wayne! The slope nose is rea...   Dec 12 2009, 08:23 AM
Gint   Sheeesh.... What a mess. :agree: Great work c...   Dec 12 2009, 08:53 AM
wayne1234   Got the drivers side all blocked out! Here i...   Dec 13 2009, 06:09 PM
wayne1234   Well me and my buddy have still been putting int t...   Dec 23 2009, 12:56 AM
Spoke   Good job. I'm going through some rustoration m...   Dec 23 2009, 10:54 AM
wayne1234   Alot more progress, I finally finished the paint, ...   Jan 2 2010, 12:10 AM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Jan 2 2010, 12:13 AM
sendjonathanmail   Try 914ap.com for your carpet and interior needs. ...   Jan 2 2010, 08:20 AM
wayne1234   I'm really happy with how the paint is coming ...   Jan 3 2010, 03:08 PM
Ferg   Wow, you've been busy, great work! If I w...   Jan 3 2010, 04:12 PM
rick 918-S   Looks like your on top of it now! :clap:   Jan 3 2010, 08:16 PM
Sleepin   Looking good! I wish I could do paint and body...   Jan 3 2010, 09:30 PM
plymouth37   Paint looks great! keep up the good work!   Jan 3 2010, 10:25 PM
wayne1234   Engine is almost totally together :cheer: couple ...   Jan 6 2010, 02:12 AM
wayne1234   Progress has been SLOW.... the engine is in :D I m...   Feb 12 2010, 12:28 PM
wayne1234   RE: WOW, my "solid" car aint so solid, but now it is solid!   Feb 12 2010, 12:40 PM
wayne1234   Almost forgot I got the bumpers on!! here...   Feb 12 2010, 12:45 PM
wayne1234   Also I got the parking brake installed and working...   Feb 12 2010, 12:56 PM
SirAndy   I know its a small piece , but it was curve and w...   Feb 12 2010, 02:15 PM
6freak   ton of work ...nice job .....rubber buggy bumpers ...   Feb 12 2010, 01:44 PM
wayne1234   There is always that :D I thought about it after...   Feb 12 2010, 02:26 PM
PanelBilly   Did I understand you correctly? You sanded and the...   Feb 12 2010, 02:40 PM
wayne1234   Yeah there was a crack in mine So I used the hobby...   Feb 12 2010, 03:09 PM
wayne1234   Still making small progress, I got almost all the ...   Mar 6 2010, 12:01 AM
wayne1234   Then the new mod... I realised I have no front pa...   Mar 6 2010, 12:08 AM
FourBlades   Your car is looking good man. I like your turn si...   Mar 6 2010, 06:53 AM
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