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> Let's save another 914, and get it decent., Probably need advice from you old school 914 folk
ghuff
post Jun 24 2009, 05:53 PM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here.
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So here is the rust on this one. It's a 75 cali car it's entire life.

Get the worst over to begin. Let us take a look at the hell hole. It was solid, and even passed teh screwdriver/hammer test....

*until* it soaked in metal ready a while... then the screwdriver test started picking out giant holes which you see here. It is still soaking, and has been on/off for days not to eat away more to see what metal is truly left. Next step is a grinder or non-hand tool of sorts to break deep into the pitting and see what truly is through.

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post Jun 25 2009, 04:17 PM
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The pipe will be fine 99% of the time.

You won't be able to seal up the inside of the weld. There is always some exposed metal left. That's just life. Replacing the entire long will still leave you with bare metal where the welds are. You just can't get to everything.

But the good news is that as long as you maintain the car correctly you repair will not rust out for a LONG LONG TIME. Long enough to not worry about it.
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post Jun 30 2009, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 25 2009, 02:17 PM) *

The pipe will be fine 99% of the time.

You won't be able to seal up the inside of the weld. There is always some exposed metal left. That's just life. Replacing the entire long will still leave you with bare metal where the welds are. You just can't get to everything.

But the good news is that as long as you maintain the car correctly you repair will not rust out for a LONG LONG TIME. Long enough to not worry about it.




Made some progress just have been to busy to update with pictures. I am going to rectify that now. I have hit all the rust with metal ready, then some rattle can self etching for a temporary seal against the weather while I work. The drivers side is complete with por patch and por 15. There was a literal 2 pinholes worth of true rust after many many many many hours with 60 grit, a dremel, and a 1/2" drill with various wire wheels.

To give you an idea of the time spent, I have purple/black bruises in my arm pits from working the hell holes at ground level for so long with 60 grit and a dremel + wire wheel/drill to pull thepitting out and see what metal is really good.

My wife freaked out and I did not put two and two together until I thought about what I had been doing for the past week.

On to the photos!

I ended up getting more of the rust out before it received patch and por 15. The holes were so tiny and completely void of rust after I got to them, that I decided cutting/welding here was not necessary at all and that patch would be fine since they were well under 1cm or so and not structural.

Worse case scenario, in 5-10 years I cut and weld it. Oh well.



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ghuff   Let's save another 914, and get it decent.   Jun 24 2009, 05:53 PM
SLITS   That's nothing .... never penetrated the long....   Jun 24 2009, 05:57 PM
veltror   I wish mine was as good as this...   Jun 24 2009, 06:11 PM
SLITS   I wish mine was as good as this... No shit Dick...   Jun 24 2009, 06:14 PM
Vacca Rabite   I wish mine was as good as this... No shit Dic...   Jun 24 2009, 06:18 PM
r_towle   That is really in great shape compared to what we ...   Jun 24 2009, 06:22 PM
ghuff   Next up, the side opposite of the hell hole. This ...   Jun 24 2009, 06:23 PM
McMark   What you've got doesn't need saving it jus...   Jun 24 2009, 06:29 PM
ghuff   Here is the drivers side hack box, and the center ...   Jun 24 2009, 06:34 PM
ghuff   Passenger side jack box and long. The rear portio...   Jun 24 2009, 06:38 PM
Heeltoe914   You have no problems easy fix. All parts you can...   Jun 24 2009, 06:47 PM
shoguneagle   Your 914 is completely restorable and should be. ...   Jun 24 2009, 07:03 PM
tat2dphreak   I cut my bad jackpost off, and welded a piece wher...   Jun 24 2009, 07:15 PM
ghuff   The front trunk looks like it was curbed at some p...   Jun 24 2009, 08:47 PM
RobW   I dig that color. Its time for an ez resto.. got c...   Jun 24 2009, 09:00 PM
ghuff   I dig that color. Its time for an ez resto.. got ...   Jun 24 2009, 09:12 PM
ghuff   Here is what the exterior looks like. It was gett...   Jun 24 2009, 09:09 PM
ghuff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img15...   Jun 24 2009, 09:18 PM
ghuff   Forgot to add these, this is what I had to sculpt ...   Jun 24 2009, 09:30 PM
ghuff   About the sill to long brace on the drivers side, ...   Jun 25 2009, 09:06 AM
McMark   The pipe will be fine 99% of the time. You won...   Jun 25 2009, 04:17 PM
ghuff   The pipe will be fine 99% of the time. You won...   Jun 30 2009, 11:01 PM
ghuff   The hell hole, or lack thereof. The hole in the f...   Jun 30 2009, 11:06 PM
ghuff   Floors, wheels, frame rails. Then door handles. Th...   Aug 13 2009, 07:35 PM
ghuff   Looked worse than it was. I will be grinding the d...   Aug 13 2009, 11:35 PM
ghuff   How far down does the engman kit come on the longs...   Aug 13 2009, 11:41 PM
ghuff   Cleaner metal http://www.914world.com/bbs2/upload...   Aug 14 2009, 10:47 AM
type47   Nice work. This car will be one you'll be prou...   Aug 14 2009, 10:55 AM
ghuff   Nice work. This car will be one you'll be pro...   Aug 14 2009, 11:06 AM
Vacca Rabite   Couple small patches in the hell hole - NBD. Great...   Aug 14 2009, 11:12 AM
ghuff   Thanks for the encouragement. The floorpan is gett...   Aug 14 2009, 10:19 PM
ghuff   Pedal cluster rebuild is complete with bronze bush...   Sep 19 2009, 08:44 PM
FourBlades   You might want to paint over the clean metal with ...   Sep 19 2009, 09:23 PM
ghuff   You might want to paint over the clean metal with...   Sep 22 2009, 12:15 AM
ghuff   This car has a new head/head(s) on at least the dr...   Sep 22 2009, 01:33 PM
ghuff   Ok I am motivated again, and now I also have a new...   Feb 7 2010, 10:15 PM
ghuff   Welded up two of these lame u shaped stamps in the...   Feb 7 2010, 10:32 PM
ghuff   Spotweld cutter kit arrived today. I sprang 97...   Feb 9 2010, 08:21 PM
ghuff   These cutters kick ass. The 1/4" is a little ...   Feb 10 2010, 01:08 PM
ghuff   Lots of progress. I am laying out plants for a rot...   Mar 19 2010, 10:10 PM
ghuff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img14...   Mar 19 2010, 10:16 PM
ghuff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img19...   Mar 19 2010, 11:10 PM
ghuff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img87...   Mar 19 2010, 11:16 PM
Andyrew   Thats ugly. Start sourcing a replacement rear fe...   Mar 20 2010, 12:36 AM
ghuff   They botched the door handle shave so bad they had...   Mar 20 2010, 09:08 AM
1968Cayman   Eh, just buy some body hammers and a shrinking dol...   Mar 20 2010, 05:45 PM
ghuff   Eh, just buy some body hammers and a shrinking do...   Mar 20 2010, 07:18 PM
ghuff   The passenger rear 1/4 and fender are fucked. I am...   Mar 21 2010, 05:49 PM
FourBlades   That will be a nice solid car when you are done wi...   Mar 21 2010, 05:52 PM
ghuff   That will be a nice solid car when you are done w...   Mar 21 2010, 06:02 PM
scotty b   It's all fixable. Get the paint and bondo off ...   Mar 21 2010, 05:52 PM
ghuff   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ M...   Mar 21 2010, 05:58 PM
scotty b   80 is plenty fine. I strip with 36 grit then use 8...   Mar 21 2010, 06:25 PM
ghuff   B)-->


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