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> Best way to Clean (exterior) a 914 Transmission, I am about to have it Evil rebuilt (third one is a charm) and want to
Cupomeat
post Jul 9 2009, 03:51 PM
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Any tips/advice for cleaning the exterior of a transmission?

I scraped and got most of the obvious road dirt off it last night, but I'd love to paint this one after it gets back from Doc. Evil's GearBox Summer camp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/351.gif)

I am afraid to use a pressure washer for fear of water ingress, and obviously, the least amount of chemicals the better.

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post Jul 13 2009, 10:23 PM
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A coupla points:

First:- About mag corrosion from the internet....

"And while the corrosion rates of modern, high-grade magnesium alloys are acceptable for interior applications, the automotive exterior environments are extremely harsh for bare and even coated magnesium parts.

The interface between the steel bracket and a magnesium-alloy casting is prone to galvanic corrosion.
First, road salts and slurries can easily damage conventional electrocoat paints, creating sites for rapid electrochemical dissolution of magnesium. Second, being the most reactive (or anodic) metal in the electrochemical series, magnesium is prone to severe galvanic attack when in contact with other metals. In automotive structural components such as engine cradles, road salts and debris can accumulate around the bolts and washers that mechanically affix magnesium parts to the car frame. Such sites may become prone to galvanic corrosion (see Figure 2).

Therefore, finding cost-effective solutions for protecting magnesium alloys from corrosion has become paramount.

One of the best ways to combat galvanic corrosion of magnesium is to use isolation materials to prevent direct contact between bare magnesium and the dissimilar metal. If a high torque load is required, such isolation materials must be made of special metals or other inorganic substances that minimize excessive deformation upon loading. In particular, the use of aluminum washers can significantly reduce magnesium corrosion; however, the effectiveness of such corrosion protection is directly related to the chemical composition of the aluminum washer being used (see Figure 3). "

Now for protection:

My mag book suggested elements higher in the periodic table such as zinc to act as a sacrificial anode...

And according to the pelican 911 board....

The Factory Workshop Manual (Vol. I, page SR 140) sez:

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Pressure cast parts must not be cleaned with acid, since acids attack the magnesium alloy. After any transmission repairs during which the one-season underseal is washed off the gearbox housing, or when the underneath of the vehicle is washed, we recommend that corrosion protection be improved on the pressure-cast gearbox housing by applying a bitumen or wax based one-season underseal, e. g. Tectyl, which should be sprayed or brushed on.”
© Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche Workshop Manual, Vol. I, Page SR 140.


Tectyl in the wax formuation sounds a lot like cosmoline- the honey colored wax based wax protective coating that''s been around since at least WWII. A lot of european cars are shipped coated in "cosmoline" for protection and it's cleaned off with mineral spirits and a rag. If they didn't clean the tranny, that would explain the coating.

I'm sure there are other wax cosmoline or panel wax materials that look like the Tectyl....
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Cupomeat   Best way to Clean (exterior) a 914 Transmission   Jul 9 2009, 03:51 PM
tat2dphreak   I used engine brite and simple green... and a wire...   Jul 9 2009, 04:23 PM
RobW   I used a wire wheel on a drill on the dry stuff, a...   Jul 9 2009, 05:01 PM
r_towle   put a cover on the vent hole. Power wash it. Rich   Jul 9 2009, 06:35 PM
Rand   I think somebody said once to not use a steam clea...   Jul 9 2009, 06:42 PM
Ian Stott   I soaked mine in a degreaser I bought at Canadian ...   Jul 9 2009, 06:47 PM
SUNAB914   Simple green and brush, that will do it.   Jul 9 2009, 08:21 PM
Cupomeat   Thanks, I'll do the simple green method first ...   Jul 10 2009, 10:22 AM
RiqueMar   Thanks, I'll do the simple green method first...   Jul 10 2009, 10:36 AM
Tman914   I use the oven cleaner that work out the best for ...   Jul 10 2009, 10:52 AM
sww914   DITTO the oven cleaner. It's made for cleaning...   Jul 10 2009, 01:38 PM
turboman808   Wouldn't wheel cleaner like P21s wheel cleaner...   Jul 10 2009, 03:18 PM
Cupomeat   Ok, So I didn't have any dog crap on my shoe ...   Jul 13 2009, 02:23 PM
Rand   I wouldn't paint it. Just creates more mainten...   Jul 13 2009, 02:34 PM
Ian Stott   I agree with not painting it, if you have it all c...   Jul 13 2009, 02:41 PM
kwales   Ok, here we go again. The trannys are magnesium...   Jul 13 2009, 02:48 PM
Cupomeat   What? ME? trying to hide something? I assure you ...   Jul 13 2009, 02:49 PM
Ian Stott   I stand corrected! I will now check mine for c...   Jul 13 2009, 02:53 PM
charliew   I would use ppg dp90lf epoxy primer and leave it b...   Jul 13 2009, 07:12 PM
Pat Garvey   Any tips/advice for cleaning the exterior of a tr...   Jul 13 2009, 07:23 PM
Dr Evil   Cases are mag ALLOY not pure mag. I have used Easy...   Jul 13 2009, 08:44 PM
pcar916   Cleaning mag and mag alloys is done by many indust...   Jul 13 2009, 09:12 PM
Cupomeat   Well, looks like I should have waited about 2 more...   Jul 13 2009, 09:32 PM
Rand   I'm curious... Does someone have a photo of a ...   Jul 13 2009, 10:03 PM
kwales   A coupla points: First:- About mag corrosion fro...   Jul 13 2009, 10:23 PM
Rand   :ttiwwp: Rust: No issue, this metal doesn't ru...   Jul 13 2009, 10:34 PM
Dr Evil   I wish I had pics of some of the shit boxes I have...   Jul 13 2009, 11:09 PM


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