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saigon71
post Jul 19 2009, 07:43 PM
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I started looking into welding equipment for body/hell hole/jackstand repair of my 914. A friend told me that MIG is the way to go for this. My question is what specifications do I need in a MIG welder to get the job done without a lot of grief? Also, what gage steel should be used for making patches?

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post Jul 19 2009, 08:03 PM
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You want to get a 120 volt mig welder, Miller or Lincoln is fine. Loews and Home Depot both sell decent set ups for about $450-$550. If you weld using true MIG, you need to have a bottle of shielding gas that HD will not have. Find a welding shop. Welding with flux core from a MIG is fine, its just messy and harder to use on really thin stuff. MIG is easier.

Get a auto-darkening helmet from somewhere. Mine is from Harbor Freight and works fine.

Metal is 18 - 22 gauge. I usually get 18 gauge for my patches as the really thin stuff burns through too easy.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Jul 19 2009, 10:03 PM) *

You want to get a 120 volt mig welder, Miller or Lincoln is fine. Loews and Home Depot both sell decent set ups for about $450-$550. If you weld using true MIG, you need to have a bottle of shielding gas that HD will not have. Find a welding shop. Welding with flux core from a MIG is fine, its just messy and harder to use on really thin stuff. MIG is easier.

Get a auto-darkening helmet from somewhere. Mine is from Harbor Freight and works fine.

Metal is 18 - 22 gauge. I usually get 18 gauge for my patches as the really thin stuff burns through too easy.

Zach


Thanks Zach - appreciate the advice. How many Amps do I need? I noticed some 220V mig welders at Harbor Freight from Chicago http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/...word=mig+welder should I avoid these? I have a 220V outlet in my shop.
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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Jul 19 2009, 09:17 PM) *


Thanks Zach - appreciate the advice. How many Amps do I need? I noticed some 220V mig welders at Harbor Freight from Chicago http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/...word=mig+welder should I avoid these? I have a 220V outlet in my shop.


220volt is too much power. You will have a hard time welding the thin metal that our cars are made from.

The Lincoln 150 (at Home Depot it is the 1500) that I have (15amp, 120 volt) is great. It has enough power to weld 1/4 in wall tube, but can go low enough not to always burn through thin sheet.

Don't buy a welder from HF. It is a false economy.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Jul 19 2009, 10:54 PM) *
220volt is too much power. You will have a hard time welding the thin metal that our cars are made from.


Actually I don't agree with that at all. Inexpensive 220V units generally let you weld thicker metal single pass than 110V units, but the lower settings are pretty much (if not idential) on 110V vs. 220V. When it comes to welding thin metal its about 90% technique. In fact, much of the welding I do on my car doesn't even require the lowest setting on my 220V unit.

110V units tend to be the easiest to deal with because most people don't have 220V outlet handy. This also allows you to cart a 110V unit to a friends house and be assured you will have power. 220V units allow you to weld thicker metal single pass.

Even if you don't want to use shielding gas today, make sure your welder can use shielding gas.
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saigon71   Buying Welding Equipment   Jul 19 2009, 07:43 PM
Vacca Rabite   You want to get a 120 volt mig welder, Miller or L...   Jul 19 2009, 08:03 PM
saigon71   You want to get a 120 volt mig welder, Miller or ...   Jul 19 2009, 08:17 PM
Vacca Rabite   Thanks Zach - appreciate the advice. How many A...   Jul 19 2009, 08:54 PM
saigon71   [quote name='saigon71' post='1193166' date='Jul 1...   Jul 19 2009, 09:55 PM
Richard Casto   220volt is too much power. You will have a hard t...   Jul 20 2009, 03:11 PM
jmill   Don't get a cheapo welder from harbor freight....   Jul 19 2009, 08:53 PM
URY914   Here is my $.02 on saving money on welding eq...   Jul 19 2009, 09:55 PM
sean_v8_914   Millermatic 145. it has tip short protection, infi...   Jul 19 2009, 11:38 PM
Todd Enlund   Millermatic 145. it has tip short protection, inf...   Jul 20 2009, 12:12 AM
Mark Henry   I have a Canox 140 ( a re-badged Millermatic) real...   Jul 20 2009, 06:14 AM
Spoke   I have a Millermatic 135 with infinite wire speed ...   Jul 20 2009, 09:30 AM
aircooledtechguy   I've got a Lincoln 135 MIG that does just abou...   Jul 20 2009, 10:40 AM
jmill   As far as the bottle goes, get a big one. The lit...   Jul 20 2009, 10:57 AM
jmill   Actually I don't agree with that at all. In...   Jul 20 2009, 07:35 PM
Richard Casto   [quote name='Richard Casto' post='1193356' date='...   Jul 21 2009, 09:56 AM
Todd Enlund   Since we are talking about inexpensive welders, i...   Jul 21 2009, 11:24 AM
zymurgist   The Millermatic 140AS is a 110v unit with infinit...   Jul 21 2009, 12:05 PM
Richard Casto   Since we are talking about inexpensive welders, ...   Jul 21 2009, 04:35 PM
ghuff   [quote name='Todd Enlund' post='1193640' date='Ju...   Jul 21 2009, 04:56 PM
Richard Casto   Next purchase will probably be an inexpensive TI...   Jul 22 2009, 09:09 AM
ghuff   Go gas to begin with. Learn on the bottle. By th...   Jul 20 2009, 08:03 PM
Elliot Cannon   I have a Millermatic 180 that is a 220 volt machin...   Jul 20 2009, 08:13 PM
scotty b   Miller 250 at home, Miller 140 at the shop, Miller...   Jul 20 2009, 09:19 PM
Porcharu   One thing that has not been mentioned here is the ...   Jul 21 2009, 05:23 PM
scotty b   One thing that has not been mentioned here is the...   Jul 21 2009, 07:33 PM
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