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kenshapiro2002
post Oct 10 2009, 06:38 PM
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My oil breather hose just dead ends in my cooling "well". What a decent, affordable (like $50 or less) breather box that I can just vent into the atmosphere of the engine bay, pulling off the oil and not throwing it into my engine?
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post Nov 15 2009, 09:05 AM
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Heads were not vented on '75-'76 engines for tighter emissions control.

You ought to spend some time in the library reading and you may find the reason crankcases / heads are vented, but since you haven't ....

1.) The spinning crankshaft assembly creates a hell of a storm inside the engine and whips up oil, entrains air with a wet sump system. For years, crank scrapers and windage screens have been used to quell the storm.

2.) Rings do not seal perfectly. There is always some blowby present pressurizing the case.

3.) Adding the Empi or whatever type breather or just a can has no provision to drain the oil back to the case where it belongs.

4.) The system that Chris makes appears to be somewhat modeled after a dry sump tank .... inlet at top, probably with baffles and a screen to break the air entrained in the oil out so that it drops to the bottom of the tank and dribbles back into the case.

5.) You can drill your heads in the car ... use heavy grease on the drill and tap and it will capture the shards. You can use a threaded hose barb in this manner.

5.5.) Vacuum to pull the oil vapors / droplets into the engine to be burned can be obtained by tapping the top or bottom of the carb air cleaner and routing the vent hoses to the air cleaners.

6.) If you decide to vent the valve covers, the vent mu be in the upper portion of the cover as the rocker box can run about 1/2 full of oil. You braze the fittings onto the cover unless you can find a bulkhead fitting that will work.
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post Nov 15 2009, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Nov 15 2009, 10:05 AM) *

5.5.) Vacuum to pull the oil vapors / droplets into the engine to be burned can be obtained by tapping the top or bottom of the carb air cleaner and routing the vent hoses to the air cleaners.


Even better would be to vent to a breather can that separates the oil droplets first, then has the remaining vapors sucked through the carbs. This would be strictly legal, as Cap'n Krusty likes to remind us of.
The Tangerine Breather is available with a fitting on top instead of the K&N filter so this can be implemented.

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kenshapiro2002   Need An Oil Breather Suggestion   Oct 10 2009, 06:38 PM
Racer Chris   a decent, affordable (like $50 or less) bre...   Oct 10 2009, 08:12 PM
SirAndy   Why spend any money at all? Next time you change ...   Oct 11 2009, 02:50 PM
kenshapiro2002   Looks better than that bean can. :D Why spend...   Oct 11 2009, 04:57 PM
Racer Chris   Looks better than that bean can. :D Looks like...   Oct 11 2009, 06:26 PM
kenshapiro2002   I'm just gonna stick a filtered cigarette on t...   Oct 11 2009, 07:30 PM
tomeric914   Looks better than that bean can. :D The EMPI a...   Oct 12 2009, 02:20 PM
kenshapiro2002   They don't have tech inspectors in my neighbor...   Oct 12 2009, 02:32 PM
stephenaki   a decent, affordable (like $50 or less) br...   Oct 18 2009, 10:56 AM
tat2dphreak   you can get little empi breathers for not much, lo...   Oct 10 2009, 08:47 PM
tat2dphreak   here's the best pic I could find, I have the h...   Oct 10 2009, 08:51 PM
kenshapiro2002   Why would you want to move it to the back wall? By...   Oct 10 2009, 09:30 PM
Racer Chris   Why would you want to move it to the back wall? B...   Oct 10 2009, 11:30 PM
kenshapiro2002   Gotcha...thanks. Guess my engine has no vent tubes...   Oct 11 2009, 07:23 AM
Racer Chris   Gotcha...thanks. Guess my engine has no vent tube...   Oct 11 2009, 09:39 AM
kenshapiro2002   How do I do that while the engien is installed wit...   Oct 11 2009, 11:52 AM
Jeff Hail   Why would you want to move it to the back wall? ...   Nov 15 2009, 02:49 AM
tat2dphreak   my reason for moving it to the back is so I can pu...   Oct 11 2009, 09:36 AM
kenshapiro2002   I have no insulation on my firewall. my reason ...   Oct 11 2009, 11:51 AM
tat2dphreak   you can vent the valve covers with fittings, which...   Oct 11 2009, 01:03 PM
ejm   I've drilled and tapped the heads with the eng...   Oct 11 2009, 02:02 PM
kenshapiro2002   Yeah? How does one pull that off? I've dri...   Oct 11 2009, 02:25 PM
Gint   I've drilled and tapped the heads with the eng...   Oct 11 2009, 04:21 PM
tat2dphreak   I think you'll have to block off some.   Oct 11 2009, 08:27 PM
kenshapiro2002   Chewing gum? Piece of potato? I think you'l...   Oct 11 2009, 08:54 PM
tat2dphreak   sure, use a potato... rest of us would use a rubbe...   Oct 11 2009, 09:09 PM
kenshapiro2002   If I can't find a suitable potato, I was going...   Oct 11 2009, 09:19 PM
kenshapiro2002   Where can I get a few of those? If not, whattaya t...   Oct 18 2009, 09:39 AM
bandjoey   OK I'll ask the dumb question. What's the...   Oct 11 2009, 11:04 PM
tat2dphreak   You probably have a small piece of hose laying aro...   Oct 11 2009, 11:12 PM
McMark   Not a dumb question at all. Technically, you...   Oct 12 2009, 12:04 AM
SirAndy   Not a dumb question at all. Technically, you...   Oct 12 2009, 12:13 AM
tat2dphreak   Double post, damn phone   Oct 12 2009, 07:03 AM
kenshapiro2002   Where...where...? :WTF: [b][color=#CC0000]Doubl...   Oct 12 2009, 07:12 AM
tat2dphreak   Where...where...? :WTF: [b][color=#CC0000]Doub...   Oct 12 2009, 09:22 AM
pcar9146guy   Even though this is used on a six, it's still ...   Oct 12 2009, 07:41 AM
kenshapiro2002   Nice. That's what I had in mind, but ordered a...   Oct 12 2009, 08:21 AM
agentblr   Another dumb question: why did the 75-76 cars not ...   Oct 12 2009, 01:57 PM
rhodyguy   with the empi version you will STILL have to find ...   Oct 13 2009, 10:15 AM
tat2dphreak   you can get those at FLAPS. or the piece of hose :...   Oct 18 2009, 10:07 AM
stephenaki   After reading through the entire thread I am of th...   Oct 18 2009, 11:04 AM
johnnie5   I mounted my breather on the rear wall of my engin...   Oct 18 2009, 12:16 PM
stephenaki   I mounted my breather on the rear wall of my engi...   Oct 18 2009, 01:05 PM
johnnie5   Nice, I like it, where'd you get the breather...   Oct 18 2009, 02:36 PM
bandjoey   Anyone with pictures of drilled out valve covers s...   Oct 18 2009, 12:31 PM
Gint   Anyone with pictures of drilled out valve covers s...   Oct 18 2009, 08:18 PM
jschaible   Why is it important to have 2 vents to the rocker ...   Nov 14 2009, 09:41 PM
Vacca Rabite   Why is it important to have 2 vents to the rocker...   Nov 15 2009, 08:31 AM
ottox914   The CFR system is on the turbo 914, and quite simp...   Nov 15 2009, 08:54 AM
jschaible   The CFR system is on the turbo 914, and quite sim...   Nov 15 2009, 10:17 AM
Racer Chris   ottox914 - how can I access your CFR system post ...   Nov 15 2009, 10:21 AM
SLITS   Heads were not vented on '75-'76 engines f...   Nov 15 2009, 09:05 AM
Racer Chris   5.5.) Vacuum to pull the oil vapors / droplets i...   Nov 15 2009, 10:02 AM
mbjarts   I have the VW "bugpack" and it blows oil...   Nov 22 2009, 09:01 PM
r_towle   I have the VW "bugpack" and it blows oi...   Nov 22 2009, 09:26 PM
mbjarts   Possible. Please post a pic of the setup, maybe ...   Nov 23 2009, 12:42 PM
r_towle   Possible. Please post a pic of the setup, maybe...   Nov 23 2009, 06:58 PM
Kargeek   Cut down fan motor bracket and a VW aftermarket ...   Nov 23 2009, 06:54 PM
r_towle   So, I am about to put the CB Performance one in. A...   Nov 27 2009, 09:28 AM


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